Recruiting Football Talk VIII

Put all the disrespect you can in the national media on Nico. I need him to find another gear for next year. I think some of the accolades got to his head. Excited to see his growth.
I don't think that is what happened, I think it was the total opposite....I think he was a raw freshman QB with very little experience and MASSIVE expectations, so when he naturally struggled, the pressure of millions of a**holes bit***ng that he wasn't meeting their stupid expectations, not meeting those expectations squashed his confidence.
 
I don't think that is what happened, I think it was the total opposite....I think he was a raw freshman QB with very little experience and MASSIVE expectations, so when he naturally struggled, the pressure of millions of a**holes bit***ng that he wasn't meeting their stupid expectations, not meeting those expectations squashed his confidence.
That said. We still never saw him collapse or break. When games started going sideways he seemed to play harder and execute better towards the end of the season. Which just has me more convinced that the offenses failures weren't totally on the QB.
 
That said. We still never saw him collapse or break. When games started going sideways he seemed to play harder and execute better towards the end of the season. Which just has me more convinced that the offenses failures weren't totally on the QB.
His talent was also readily apparent.
 
I'd be hard pressed to put Nico above the 3 spot. Potential sure.


I just want him to get better as he goes...doing that will take care of everything.

We need to quit expecting him to be 5th year Senior Hooker level now...Hooker looked way worse than Nico during his time at VT...we didn't outbid anybody for Hendon, he wasn't one of these highly sought after free agent QBs that are signing for huge pay increases...everybody forgets that we took him off of the garbage pile of transfers...the unwanted throwaways..

Nico ain't what we hoped he was...a ready for prime time superstar...but he still could be.

Patience people...Burrow and Hendon both needed time....so does Nico.
 
That said. We still never saw him collapse or break. When games started going sideways he seemed to play harder and execute better towards the end of the season. Which just has me more convinced that the offenses failures weren't totally on the QB.
Yes...and that is a very good thing, but it is vastly overlooked by the Idiot Margin....they are literally too stupid to see it.
 
I'd be hard pressed to put Nico above the 3 spot. Potential sure.


Off the top of my head (not in any order) for guys that have played significant minutes you've got Nico, Leavitt at ASU, Mateer at Wazzu (transferring to OU), Sellers at SoCar, Marcel Reed at A&M is decent, Pavia at Vandy, Arch Manning played in enough games to count but definitely not Top 3, DJ Lagway at UF and honestly I can't think of anyone else... does Castellanos have another year at BC?
 
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Off the top of my head (not in any order) for guys that have played significant minutes you've got Nico, Leavitt at ASU, Mateer at Wazzu (transferring to OU), Sellers at SoCar, Marcel Reed at A&M is decent, Pavia at Vandy, Arch Manning played in enough games to count but definitely not Top 3, DJ Lagway at UF and honestly I can't think of anyone else... does Castellanos have another year at BC?


Beck bested us...but inconsistent and lower ceiling.
If we were doing fantasy draft I'd take Beck because the ACC sux.

Pavia is a gamer, but specific to an offensive scheme.

Arch and Nico imo should be placed in same spot. Similar talent and equal questions. Maybe you make Arch B and Nico A due to playing time.
 
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Beck bested us...but inconsistent and lower ceiling.

Pavia is a gamer, but specific to an offense.

Arch and Nico imo should be placed in same spot. Similar talent and equal questions. Maybe you make Arch B and Nico A due to playing time.

Pavia in the second half of the schedule against decent SEC teams was downright garbage.
 
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It is still not impressive that he won with it.
What’s funny to me is that Peenhead Pawl devoted a large part of his life to covering up Saban’s massive illicit pay for players scheme at Bama, willfully ignoring the principle he suddenly claims to be his own. Why should Pawl, based on his own declaration here, be impressed with Saban?
 
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Lol. Heresy.

Only once in the history of the BBWAA have they been in more agreement on a single player - and they don’t agree on anything.

The only place where Jeter is overrated (by some) is in regards to his defense, by some who cling to antiquated metrics like fielding percentage.

In the modern era only Cal was better. And he wasn’t Captain Clutch, and he doesn’t have 5 rings.
Agree with the Jeter is overrated folks. He was on a bunch of unbelievably talented teams, protected by a bunch of juicers.

Struck out nearly twice as much as he walked. Career OPS and OPS+ pretty meh. One really good season offensively out of 20. Not good defensively. Solid but unspectacular career WAR - 95th overall with those around him being Barry Larkin, Larry Walker, Alan Trammel, and Gary Carter, to name a few.

He showed up to play, racked up 12000+ PAs, got a bunch of hits, was a leader, and had some unforgettable moments.

Not saying dude doesn’t deserve to be in the Hall, but outside of wearing pinstripes his body of work isn’t overwhelming. Put him on the Orioles or Expos or Twins and it’s a totally different conversation.
 


Beck bested us...but inconsistent and lower ceiling.
If we were doing fantasy draft I'd take Beck because the ACC sux.

Pavia is a gamer, but specific to an offensive scheme.

Arch and Nico imo should be placed in same spot. Similar talent and equal questions. Maybe you make Arch B and Nico A due to playing time.

Having Jackson Arnold as a potential top 10 QB in the country next year makes this list beyond laughable.
 
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Wham-O began mass-producing its first flying discs under the “Pluto Platter” moniker, kicking off what would soon become one of the most popular toys in company history.

The Frisbee story starts in college," writes the National Museum of Play, which inducted the plastic surf-and-sand flying disc into its Toy Hall of Fame in 1988.

"Late 19th-century students at Yale and other New England universities played catch with pie plates … made by the nearby Frisbie Baking Company of Bridgeport, Connecticut . They yelled ‘Frisbie!’ to warn passersby away from the spinning discs."

The activity spread to campuses and beaches around the country.

California entrepreneur Walter Frederick Morrison was struck by the idea of marketing flying discs in 1937 when, according to industry lore, somebody at a beach in Santa Barbara offered him 25 cents for a pie plate that he was flinging around with his wife-to-be Lucille.

An idea arose, but WWII interrupted his plans.

Morrison tried to sell his invention under the names “Flying Saucer” and “Pluto Platter” with disappointing results. Daunted, Morrison sold the rights to his product to notable toy company Wham-O in 1957.

Not long after production started, a pair of Wham-O employees recalled a recent trip to Connecticut where they witnessed youngsters throwing around disc-shaped pie plates and yelling “Frisbie!” whenever one of them flew off course. When the company decided to rework its flying disc design — adding more ridges to make the toy more aerodynamic and stable — they also renamed it the Frisbee, purposefully altering the spelling to ward off potential lawsuits from the Bridgeport bakery. The newly redesigned and rebranded Frisbee flew off store shelves nationwide. It quickly became one of the most iconic American toys of the 20th century.

It is estimated that over 90% of all Americans have tossed a frisbee at least once.


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Beck bested us...but inconsistent and lower ceiling.
If we were doing fantasy draft I'd take Beck because the ACC sux.

Pavia is a gamer, but specific to an offensive scheme.

Arch and Nico imo should be placed in same spot. Similar talent and equal questions. Maybe you make Arch B and Nico A due to playing time.

Geez what a terrible list. I get Freeze offense is taylor made for QBs to succeed, but so far at Auburn they have sucked. And Arnold was HORRENDOUS last year. Pavia is also super mediiocre whose stats were inferior to Nicos. Sellers and Nico had virtually the exact same year stats wise.
 
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January 23, 1957

Wham-O began mass-producing its first flying discs under the “Pluto Platter” moniker, kicking off what would soon become one of the most popular toys in company history.

The Frisbee story starts in college," writes the National Museum of Play, which inducted the plastic surf-and-sand flying disc into its Toy Hall of Fame in 1988.

"Late 19th-century students at Yale and other New England universities played catch with pie plates … made by the nearby Frisbie Baking Company of Bridgeport, Connecticut . They yelled ‘Frisbie!’ to warn passersby away from the spinning discs."

The activity spread to campuses and beaches around the country.

California entrepreneur Walter Frederick Morrison was struck by the idea of marketing flying discs in 1937 when, according to industry lore, somebody at a beach in Santa Barbara offered him 25 cents for a pie plate that he was flinging around with his wife-to-be Lucille.

An idea arose, but WWII interrupted his plans.

Morrison tried to sell his invention under the names “Flying Saucer” and “Pluto Platter” with disappointing results. Daunted, Morrison sold the rights to his product to notable toy company Wham-O in 1957.

Not long after production started, a pair of Wham-O employees recalled a recent trip to Connecticut where they witnessed youngsters throwing around disc-shaped pie plates and yelling “Frisbie!” whenever one of them flew off course. When the company decided to rework its flying disc design — adding more ridges to make the toy more aerodynamic and stable — they also renamed it the Frisbee, purposefully altering the spelling to ward off potential lawsuits from the Bridgeport bakery. The newly redesigned and rebranded Frisbee flew off store shelves nationwide. It quickly became one of the most iconic American toys of the 20th century.

It is estimated that over 90% of all Americans have tossed a frisbee at least once.


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Wait, 10% of Americans have never tossed a Frisbee? They need to get their priorities straight.
 

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