Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#126,103
PKT_VOL said:
It is almost like you don't even read the post you are responding to. See the bold you glossed over then described:

Lebron is simply a freak of nature. He would probably have been a HOF TE had he choose football over basketball.

His unique athleticism enabled him to play all five positions, defensively and offensively, at a level we have never seen. Also, his athleticism fueled his insane longevity.
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How is playing football related to basketball? Also if you were just focusing on athleticism just say he's the best athlete the league has ever seen. I think that's actually a reasonable take. Along with Wilt and Shaq, he's definitely in the conversation for the greatest physical specimen in NBA history. However, when some mentions versatility in basketball it's usually related to playing basketball not football. And regardless of how athletic Shaq was his game wasn't very versatile. Same with LeBron. He doesn't play a versatile game offensively. He's pretty much just a point forward who runs 1-4 high pick n rolls every play. Despite his size he's never been a great post player. Guys like Kobe and MJ were far better in the post despite being smaller.

Now if you want to limit LeBron athletic versatility to his defense. I can get behind that. His unique athleticism does allow him to guard 1-5 without being too much of a liability which is extremely rare. But that's where his athletic versatility stops. On offense despite his freakish athleticism his offensive game was very limited and not versatile at all. Which is common with freak athletes who tend to just do the same things over and over again.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I thought it was pretty obvious that if you get dominated in a playoff series you lose the series easily not win it 4-2.

Why would you assume the series I said Harden dominated Kobe would be the one the Lakers won 4-2 rather than the one they lost 4-1 just two years later?

Common sense people. Use it.
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Because you didn't say the series OKC dominated the Lakers.

Either way your assertion is still completely asinine since Harden at OKC played the Lakers a total of 11 times in the playoffs, he scored 20 points once in those 11 games and OKC lost that game. He shot 36.9% FG on 30.6% 3PT for a total of 11.5 ppg.

So take the L and move on kid.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Not sure he's 3 years younger than Austin Reaves and the 3rd youngest player on the team. If the goal is to try and "reset" and get younger for the post Lebron era they might look to move AR instead. There is about a 10m per year difference in contract too.

DK is also the only Laker to appear in all 48 games for the team.
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DK went through a pretty long slump and the Lakers started playing him only around 10 mins a game. Lately though, seems to be ramping back up. Now, with Luka, I wonder if DK plays a lesser role (Luka taking so many 3's).
 
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PKT_VOL said:
It is almost like you don't even read the post you are responding to. See the bold you glossed over then described:



Lebron is simply a freak of nature. He would probably have been a HOF TE had he choose football over basketball.

His unique athleticism enabled him to play all five positions, defensively and offensively, at a level we have never seen. Also, his athleticism fueled his insane longevity.
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screenthis said:
DK went through a pretty long slump and the Lakers started playing him only around 10 mins a game. Lately though, seems to be ramping back up. Now, with Luka, I wonder if DK plays a lesser role (Luka taking so many 3's).
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Not sure when this slump was...he has played 10 minutes or less in only 4 games and they've been fairly spaced out.

I do worry about his minutes and production slipping though... Luka takes on average 3 more attempts per game than Lebron :oops:
 
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screenthis said:
DK went through a pretty long slump and the Lakers started playing him only around 10 mins a game. Lately though, seems to be ramping back up. Now, with Luka, I wonder if DK plays a lesser role (Luka taking so many 3's).
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Yeah I think with Luka and Lebron DK becomes trade Capitol for a 5. They desperately need a true big.
 
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DD4ME said:
Kidd did not look enthusiastic to be attached to that swap or press conference at all.
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I think Jason Kidd didn't like being blindsided and then spoken for....but Dallas and Kidd specifically haven't been happy with Luka for awhile. They fired almost the entire strength & conditioning staff to try and motivate him to improve.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Wins the national championship and still can’t get respect. He will keep proving them wrong.
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Exactly what I was thinking but…going back to back is difficult which is why i think it looks like this…either way they’re underestimating Tony and the raw unproven talent we have on this roster..a lot of key spots had to be filled this offseason but we’ve just reloaded…in a lot of these spots
 
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#126,116
DD4ME said:
Yeah I think with Luka and Lebron DK becomes trade Capitol for a 5. They desperately need a true big.
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Yeah, bringing over Kleber and Morris as part of the Luka deal doesn't seem like a serious long term solution.

Hayes and Koloko neither have played enough imo to really have shown if they are capable of being starters either.
 
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#126,117
screenthis said:
DK went through a pretty long slump and the Lakers started playing him only around 10 mins a game. Lately though, seems to be ramping back up. Now, with Luka, I wonder if DK plays a lesser role (Luka taking so many 3's).
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I think he will..DK is a perimeter threat which LA lacked for a long time..they signed alot of shooters over many of seasons in FA but were never really consistent enough to get them where they wanted to be in my opinion..the other side of this is you don’t trade for a star like Luka and keep him on the bench..I’m curious to see how well Luka and LeBron play together considering both want the ball..LA should have just traded him in DK’s best interest…Jason definitely could have used him more than LA
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Yeah, bringing over Kleber and Morris as part of the Luka deal doesn't seem like a serious long term solution.

Hayes and Koloko neither have played enough imo to really have shown if they are capable of being starters either.
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I really like the potential of Jaxson Hayes. Tall and athletic. He could grow in to a nice piece down low. But in the 'win now' age, they'll need someone else to man the paint.
 
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volsfan_17 said:
Hey guys, remember when D4H wasn't filling the board with nonsense takes and drivel?

Ya, me either. I don't think even Pepperidge farm 'members!
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I try not to 'attack'. Often, I simply skip past many posts (like most of the arguments recently related to the NBA).
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
This actually makes us look bad. We overpaid massively if he's making more than QBs rated ahead of him.
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Sanders is a legit top 5 player in his class and Top OT. He's has the tools to be an NFL franchise OT. There was talk he's the best OT prospect in a while as well. I don't know how much we paid him but I know Ohio St. threw ALOT at him too. I'm just glad we got him and glad he'll be protecting one or 2 of our future QB's blindside.
 
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