Recruiting Football Talk VIII

Decent data if maybe not a touch obvious. As a math guy i never hate on people trying to find rhyme or reason, but I know some don't like him.


"Missing"..on Dubar really really hurt this team. If he could have provided above average play to this roster, then it would have pushed it way up the ladder.

Losing JP and Carr being a loser quitter made missing on Dubar even more of a problem.

Along with a improved Soph JP, and Carr adding some value also...if Dubar had been what he was supposed to be...this team would be a shoe in for the E8...and it would have been hard to keep them from going all the way.

But...it didn't work out that way....so I love this team and how hard they work to overcome their obvious and understandable issues due to missing* those three players....I think what they are doing in THIS iteration of the SEC is literally astounding considering....and it blows my mind that more people do not understand that and appreciate what they have done this year....it's nuts.

(I know Dubar isn't "missing" in the same sense as JP and Carr...but he may as well be)
 
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Yeah, you can’t tie team rules to their NIL deals, because the NIL is supposed to be separate from the team. We all know it isn’t, but legally it is supposed to be. The players have all of the leverage.

Has to be some sort of CBA in the future
Who would be the "owners" in this situation though? Who would force a lockout?

I find it hard to believe schools would enforce a lockout like pro teams/leagues would because they make so much $$ off college athletics.
 
That tracks..
Wasn't you one of the individuals on board with players getting compensated financially? Now that they are and no rules are keeping this chaos organized you're pissed off because players aren't being loyal. What the hell did you expect with 17-22 year old individuals? Fans can't have their cake and eat it too.
 
Who would be the "owners" in this situation though? Who would force a lockout?

I find it hard to believe schools would enforce a lockout like pro teams/leagues would because they make so much $$ off college athletics.
Schools would be the owners and it wouldn’t be much different than the pros. Pro owners make big money off the athletes too. It would just all have to be bargained. It is definitely more messy than pro sports because of all of the title IX and all of the non-revenue producing sports.
 
Wasn't you one of the individuals on board with players getting compensated financially? Now that they are and no rules are keeping this chaos organized you're pissed off because players aren't being loyal. What the hell did you expect with 17-22 year old individuals? Fans can't have their cake and eat it too.
I think the disconnect isnt that the players are getting paid, it’s the insane way the NCAA and schools have gone about it that created absolute chaos. It didn’t have to be the Wild West.
 
Who would be the "owners" in this situation though? Who would force a lockout?

I find it hard to believe schools would enforce a lockout like pro teams/leagues would because they make so much $$ off college athletics.
What we could end up with is schools could start forfeiting games due to losing too many players to other teams or their own players sitting out cause they are not happy with their NIL deals. This in turn would cause the other teams to have fewer games and TV would lose a lot of TV revenue. Maybe that would finally cause some change.
 
I think the disconnect isnt that the players are getting paid, it’s the insane way the NCAA and schools have gone about it that created absolute chaos. It didn’t have to be the Wild West.
Once again what did individuals expect when there were no rules and handlers and agents could be in the ears of these young men and women. I agree there should be structure but until there is these players are going to do what their handlers tell them..
 
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Once again what did individuals expect when there were no rules and handlers and agents could be in the ears of these young men and women.
I don’t recall anyone desiring for the players to get paid with no rules in place.

Edit* I’m not blaming the players as much as the idiots who have had their heads in the sand for decades and didn’t see this coming.
 
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Wasn't you one of the individuals on board with players getting compensated financially? Now that they are and no rules are keeping this chaos organized you're pissed off because players aren't being loyal. What the hell did you expect with 17-22 year old individuals? Fans can't have their cake and eat it too.
And, that is the key. I wanted players to not 'starve' and for universities to not be sanctioned becuase players got Shoes. But I did not want a wild, wild west approach with not rules and players pulling tricks like Gibson. It will spoil the game that I love. I'll admit I preferred the games of old with smaller, regional conferences and more player loyalty to a school (arguable).
 

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