Recruiting Football Talk VIII

March 9, 1862
Battle of the Ironclads


The USS Monitor and CSS Virginia were not the world's first ironclad ships, but their epic clash at Hampton Roads on March 9, 1862, marked a major turning point in naval warfare. When they met near the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay, Union iron-plated gunboats had already been plying the waters of Western Theater rivers for some weeks. But no two such ships had ever faced each other in combat.

On March 8th, the CSS Virginia had crippled one US wooden ship, and set sights against the USS Minnesota the next morning. As the Virginia approached the Minnesota, it noticed a strange raft-like vessel defending its quarry and shifted fire to the newcomer, USS Monitor.

The two ironclads then settled down to a close range slug-fest, both landing hits that took little effect. After several hours of close combat, Monitor disengaged and headed for the safety of shallower waters, its commander temporarily blinded by a shell that exploded near the viewing slit of the pilothouse. Virginia, short on ammunition and conscious of the retreating tide, retired to Norfolk. The first battle between steam-powered, ironclad warships had ended in a draw.

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What's so bad about the situation was the 4 straight MVP seasons were steroid induced seasons. I give Bonds Credit for his first 3 MVP seasons in early 90's but the 4 straight should be taken out of the record books. As far as the poster saying everyone was on steroids that's funny. Chipper and Derek Jeter were jacked up on roids 😂😂😂 no way in hell....
I don't want to get into a "steroid/HOF/who juiced/who didn't" debate.......

But there are lots of different "steroids" out there. Not all bulk you up and make you stronger. Some help you heal quicker. Other's mask pain. Some will help maintain muscle mass as you age.


I'd be willing to bet almost anything that the vast majority of ALL athletes......In every sport....... were "juicing" during this timeframe. I mean, my sons HS football team was taking Creatine.
 
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Not really cause the only fair way to judge players is against their peers not other eras. We have no idea how guys would perform across eras. What we do know is in the juiced ball era Barry Bonds was incomparable. That's why it doesn't matter to me that he used steroids. Everyone else was doing it too and he was way better than them.

Barry Bonds is the GOAT not because of his raw totals. He's the GOAT because of how dominant he was in comparison to his peers.
I don't care that he juiced. Put him in the HOF where he belongs.
 
I don't want to get into a "steroid/HOF/who juiced/who didn't" debate.......

But there are lots of different "steroids" out there. Not all bulk you up and make you stronger. Some help you heal quicker. Other's mask pain. Some will help maintain muscle mass as you age.


I'd be willing to bet almost anything that the vast majority of ALL athletes......In every sport....... were "juicing" during this timeframe.
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Mark and Jay Mcgwire just took the kind to help you sleep.


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Happy Sunday

March 9, 2025: You have been through a distressing time, but you must position yourself to move on. You cannot do anything about the past, but you can embrace God's will and purposes for your future. Go forth with open mind and heart. You have learned some valuable lessons that enhanced your wisdom with regard to your ability to handle challenges in the days ahead by trusting the Lord. Psalm 61:2 From the end of the earth I will cry to You, when my heart is overwhelmed; lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
 
I don't want to get into a "steroid/HOF/who juiced/who didn't" debate.......

But there are lots of different "steroids" out there. Not all bulk you up and make you stronger. Some help you heal quicker. Other's mask pain. Some will help maintain muscle mass as you age.


I'd be willing to bet almost anything that the vast majority of ALL athletes......In every sport....... were "juicing" during this timeframe. I mean, my sons HS football team was taking Creatine.
You could be correct but I would put money on it that Cal Ripken Jr. Never touched the stuff.. or Ken Griffey Jr.
 
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Happy Sunday

March 9, 2025: You have been through a distressing time, but you must position yourself to move on. You cannot do anything about the past, but you can embrace God's will and purposes for your future. Go forth with open mind and heart. You have learned some valuable lessons that enhanced your wisdom with regard to your ability to handle challenges in the days ahead by trusting the Lord. Psalm 61:2 From the end of the earth I will cry to You, when my heart is overwhelmed; lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Needed this. Thank you @DD4ME 👊🏻
 

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