Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[BigOrangeGoose]

This team tho

They will be playing in the Jackson TN bracket July 24-26.


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No one stands a chance. It’s already over

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

What’s it like

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Doc is having a conversation and quoting himself. Really think we need to drink together

None of this virtual teledrinking either. Gotta be live. 6’ separate is okay

 

[BaldBiker]

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Who's the gay guy in that pic?

 

[BigSteve09]

That b-ball team is sick. I still prefer the headband Vols the most. 06-09

 

[jakez4ut]

So no commit today. I forgot what this feels like.

 

[franklinpence]

Glad to help!! Seriously, do you know how to set up your Twitter app to get push notifications from Volnation? I don’t get on Twitter, and only have an account for the text alerts from here. Now, I get on to see the notifications.

Nope. Get all of my Vols info here. Don’t get texts either. Just wait til I’m able to check in and see it here. Folks have said it before, but it feels like a good neighborhood bar in here. Rather hear the news with this crew than have it muddled with all those jokers on Twitter.

 

[INKYBERRYVOL]

What’s it like

Watched several of that guy’s videos and he said that its sting was the worst of all of them. Dude is crazy but gotta give him respect.

 

[KB5252]

Would you have rather he run away and get shot in the back? He was in fight or flight mode. Those 3 men could have taken him into custody. Instead they were cowards and tried intimidation with guns only it didn’t go as planned and he was senselessly shot.

Your are jumping to conclusions. Had he continued to run he might be alive. Had they not been stupid and chased him cowboy style the whole series of events would have never happened. They are responsible for their actions, but those actions don't equal murder IMO. I'd say manslaughter. They didn't go into this with the intent to kill him, imo, but they were very stupid and irresponsible in their actions and have to answer for that.

I'm not defending the actions of anyone here. Just pointing out that the deceased bears some responsibility here as well. Had he been running away when shot this would absolutely be murder.

 

[SpringBokVol]

This team tho

They will be playing in the Jackson TN bracket July 24-26.


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Hopson and Hubbs don’t belong

 

[AllVol11717]

Your are jumping to conclusions. Had he continued to run he might be alive. Had they not been stupid and chased him cowboy style the whole series of events would have never happened. They are responsible for their actions, but those actions don't equal murder IMO. I'd say manslaughter. They didn't go into this with the intent to kill him, imo, but they were very stupid and irresponsible in their actions and have to answer for that.

I'm not defending the actions of anyone here. Just pointing out that the deceased bears some responsibility here as well. Had he been running away when shot this would absolutely be murder.

If they had been out there with baseball bats you may have a case, they went out armed with weapons that were created specifically for killing.

 

[KB5252]

If they had been out there with baseball bats you may have a case, they went out armed with weapons that were created specifically for killing.

People carry weapons so the time. Carrying them means nothing. A murder case would be very weak at best here. This is a manslaughter case. Had they shot him while running away if agree with murder all day. Instead they brandished weapons and the deceased attacked in fight or flight mode. They did not intend to kill him but were wreckless and irresponsible. They introduced a weapon into the scenario and when the deceased attempted to attack and take it he fired and killed him. Because they introduced the weapon it is manslaughter IMO.

 

[franklinpence]

Would u even invite me?

I’d say for current posters, if you’re ignored by 50 or more folks (sorry Bruin) you aren’t invited.

 

[BigOrangeGoose]

 

[The Sheriff]

 

[BruinVol]

I’d say for current posters, if you’re ignored by 50 or more folks (sorry Bruin) you aren’t invited.

Well kiss my ass. I’m a VFL to

 

[AllVol11717]

People carry weapons so the time. Carrying them means nothing. A murder case would be very weak at best here. This is a manslaughter case. Had they shot him while running away if agree with murder all day. Instead they brandished weapons and the deceased attacked in fight or flight mode. They did not intend to kill him but were wreckless and irresponsible. They introduced a weapon into the scenario and when the deceased attempted to attack and take it he fired and killed him. Because they introduced the weapon it is manslaughter IMO.

Except they weren't just going about their day while coincidentally being armed. They were armed in search of a burglar and then misidentified the man, intercepted him on the road using a vehicle, and then shot and killed him. Their intentions were violent and premeditated, even if they didn't intend to go to the extent they did.

 

[KB5252]

Except they weren't just going about their day while coincidentally being armed. They were armed in search of a burglar and then misidentified the man, intercepted him on the road using a vehicle, and then shot and killed him. Their intentions were violent and premeditated, even if they didn't intend to go to the extent they did.

There are some key details you are leaving it that are very important. This is manslaughter. If you want to go all in be my guest but a jury won't find a murder charge in this case. What do you mean by misidentified?

 

[AllVol11717]

There are some key details you are leaving it that are very important. This is manslaughter. If you want to go all in be my guest but a jury won't find a murder charge in this case. What do you mean by misidentified?

Oh pray tell what are these hidden details that acquit these good ole boys from the murder they committed while trying to play Batman? And by misidentified I mean they stopped a man going about his day and labeled him as a burglary suspect, which they have no right to do since they, as random dudes and not cops, have not actually conducted any kind of proper investigation.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I'm having commitment withdrawal.

 

[KB5252]

Oh pray tell what are these hidden details that acquit these good ole boys from the murder they committed while trying to play Batman? And by misidentified I mean they stopped a man going about his day and labeled him as a burglary suspect, which they have no right to do since they, as random dudes and not cops, have not actually conducted any kind of proper investigation.

That doesn't mean they misidentified him. By all accounts he was who they he thought was. I agree they did not do the right thing by following him and attempting to stop him, especially considering he was just a guy they saw looking in windows there day before. Had they not and he attacked they would be justified. But that isn't what happened. They attempted to stop him, he attacked and grabbed at the weapon it at the very least the person holding the weapon and was killed. That is why IMO manslaughter is the proper charge. A former police officer and DA played cowboy and was irresponsible and wreckless. They didn't set out to kill him but were at least mostly responsible for the events that led up to his death hence the manslaughter charge.

 

[85SugarVol]

Who? I’ve missed that

 

[Pepe]

I’m no cop but I believe the law would say you’re wrong. I don’t think you can sell that you were “standing your ground” or were in “immediate danger” if you chase the guy down the street and kill him. But I could be wrong??

I think it is even highly frowned upon for cops to shoot somebody in the back

 

[AllVol11717]

That doesn't mean they misidentified him. By all accounts he was who they he thought was. I agree they did not do the right thing by following him and attempting to stop him, especially considering he was just a guy they saw looking in windows there day before. Had they not and he attacked they would be justified. But that isn't what happened. They attempted to stop him, he attacked and grabbed at the weapon it at the very least the person holding the weapon and was killed. That is why IMO manslaughter is the proper charge. A former police officer and DA played cowboy and was irresponsible and wreckless. They didn't set out to kill him but were at least mostly responsible for the events that led up to his death hence the manslaughter charge.

I don't mean misidentify in that he was not the guy they thought they were chasing, but that he was not a "burglary suspect" as they claimed because they themselves didn't conduct a legitimate investigation (since they are civilians, not cops) and therefor they don't have the legitimate power to deem someone a suspect.

Also you might be able to make the argument that he attacked them if they didn't stop him while already brandishing their firearm. When one car is following you and one is stopping in front of you with two armed men, it's reasonable to defend yourself. It's similar to how if someone is winding up to punch you in the face you're legally justified to hit them even if they haven't hit you yet, because there is a reasonable assumption that you are in danger.

 

[VOLuptuousBOOMS]

I met Albert Haynesworth at whiskey kitchen in Nashville. He said JH was the craziest MFer he ever met.

One of my high school Football coaches played against him in high school. He said that after the game every kid on the team was literally scared to death of him. They normally talked smack on the field, he said after the first quarter, no one on the field from either team said a word but John Henderson.