Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[butchna]

These get overlooked but Mud, The Lincoln Lawyer, and Fraility are great movies

Big fan of the Michael Connelly books. Lincoln Lawyer was built for Matthew in retrospect. Wish he’d do a cameo on Prime’s Bosch before that ends.

 

[jakez4ut]

Bug has been going since November. I think the curve flattened on its own. It’s not like we were actually quarantined. People were constantly out and about at stores. Plus there will definitely be a second, third, fourth, etc spike until there’s a vaccine

i think the problem right now is simply perception, and we talked about this 2 months ago around here.......

2 things would happen....we wouldn't do enough and it woudl get out of control, or we'd do what we needed to, and at some point in the future when the actual results don't match all the prediction models, people will be pissed becasue "what was the big deal? why'd we have to do xyz?"

and here we are. lol.

the problem started with how they crammed ever single worst case scenario down your throat as if that was definitely going to happen, or was currently happening....

there was not near enough on what the alternatives were/would be given whatever measures were taken. action dictating outcome....or not?

anyway. i don't think the shelter in place in most places was near as strict as was portrayed by some, though i do think the shut down of public gathering places made an impact. people did social distance, for the most part, and i would assume everyone's hygenic habits changed some lol.

the other caveat to that is there is some lag in time...from when the virus actually started to spread here (no way to know, but safe to say it was well before Feb/March) and how many people actually had it, or had recovered from it when testing started...again, no way to know.

so, you start testing...day 1 thru.............whatever there's going to be initial spiking of numbers just becuase testing is happening...not necessarily because everyone's getting the virus.

at some point, the more tests you do, the number has to level out. the only way to impact that levelling out is stop the spread and/or increase the testing rates..

and all you'uve done by doing that is move up the date that the levelling should begin. but since you don't know the answers to question 1 and 2 above, you just have to keep testing until you start seeing trends, which again takes some time.....how much time is dependent solely on how many tests can you get completed in a particular time frame? but if you speed up testing rates, i would expect to see another spike of positives.........simply because we changed the test rate.

but, again....that shoudl close the gap between the spike and the levelling, and then the down turn. couple with the quarantine stuff, and it should speed that up a bit....buy you'll never know by how much....that's the kicker....that is unless you believe all the predictive models that were reported on.


so you have a choice...either you take a look at what actually happened vs. the predictions and thinkg "man we did a really good job of quarantine and preventitive measures" or you think "WTF!@?"

there's really no way to know 100% which one is really right.
lol.

 

[Devo182]

Tried watching that show, but the amount of suspension of disbelief required was just too much.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Those were very definitive long term statements for a situation and information that changes almost by the day. Look for changes in his position on the matter at some point in the not so distant future...

This +1000

Everyday more evidence comes to light that the death rate is exponentially lower than the numbers suggest.

Given the antibody tests that have been conducted around the world, the fact that many of the covid cases/deaths are inflated, for instance, you dont need to test positive for covid to be diagnosed with covid. If you are hit by a bus and you test positive for covid then they register it as a death from coronavirus. Hopefully this will continue to come to be accepted and the fear mongerers will shut the hell up soon.

 

[jakez4ut]

el oh el.....

 

[VOLSONLY]

Killer Joe was pretty F'd up.

I’ve not seen it. I’ll have to check it out

 

[butchna]

I’ve not seen it. I’ll have to check it out

Make sure your water’s working.

 

[drvenner]

It‘s pretty hard to get intoxicated if you are over 50 doc. Unless you are spending a lot of time in the sun, 1k-2k most likely won’t get you to an optimum blood level of at least 50ng/ml, and preferably 60ng/ml. The right answer is to test, of course, but if over 50 I would (and do) take at least 5k. I know of nobody taking 5k that‘s gotten intoxicated, although they may exist if younger and/or getting lots of sun.

I have had prescriptions for a weekly pill that was 50k. My doctor would not refill it without testing me, so I went with my plan. I may take it back to the 5k per day, just to be safe.

 

[85SugarVol]

The response to covid is just another thing that shows that this country/culture has no balls. Let the damn thing run it’s course so we can build herd immunity and move on. That’s what life done with diseases for billions of years. This isn’t even that bad of a bug! Just pathetic how stupid and scared people are now

Oh my. Who are you and what have you done with the real scvolfan?

 

[scvolfan7]

Oh my. Who are you and what have you done with the real scvolfan?

 

[Geaux_Vols]

Feel like that wiltfong article didn't get enough looks. lots of good stuff in there:

“Tennessee is going out of their way to build personal relationships with us,” Brown said. “They’re showing us what it’s like to be a Vol and how they’re actually a family up there. Who wouldn’t want to play for someone they know has their back. It’s only going up from here. These coaches know how to win games and utilize talent. And with all of us guys coming in, we’re winning a National Championship.”

Many of the others echoed the same sentiment.

“Big change is coming to Tennessee,” safety Edwin White stated. “A powerhouse coming back.”

“I think we have a powerful class,” Evans said. “We’re coming in with hunger and ready to do what it takes to be that guy.”

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“In my opinion I feel that us Vols are doing so well in recruiting is because we are really getting a lot of great athletes and recruits that I feel would lead the team to a National Championship,” running back Jaylen Wright said.

“The coaching staff is very genuine and they seem to really care about the players,” receiver Walker Merrill said. “Recruiting momentum is everything. Once you have top players commit, others tend to follow. Knoxville has a great tradition and awesome fanbase. The last three quarters of last season was truly amazing to watch. This 2021 Tennessee class is legit. We are ready to show what we can do!”

 

[Devo182]

Is it just me or does it feel like we will have 30+ commitments by mid-Summer, then this Fall will be full-on Hunger Games for who survives and makes the cut?

 

[delfonic]

Is it just me or does it feel like we will have 30+ commitments by mid-Summer, then this Fall will be full-on Hunger Games for who survives and makes the cut?

It'll be like the auditions for the Joker's gang in Dark Knight.

 

[OrangenSC]

back to normal in 2 years? STFU

What's funny is everybody has an opinion and the media loves to find people with a title in front of or behind a name and publish their opinion. His opinion is as value as anyone else's, but that's not saying much.

 

[Rocky_Vol21]

 

[butchna]

Don’t know if this will display, but Nieds is a fun guy.

 

[SSVol]

I have had prescriptions for a weekly pill that was 50k. My doctor would not refill it without testing me, so I went with my plan. I may take it back to the 5k per day, just to be safe.

It's completely reasonable (and preferable) to test. I took 10k for years (at my physician's recommendation) and never approached intoxication. I have known at least one person who did have some intoxication symptoms, but he was taking 10k or more when he got there (also at a physician's recommendation). I know he still takes 5k daily now and has had no issues. He did have some weight loss at one point, so that might have been a factor. The bottom line is getting to a level you are comfortable with.

You can find a dozen papers claiming that 20ng/ml is just fine (it's not), and you can find a dozen papers that say 40-60ng/ml or more is critical. While wildly different, they are all written by well-meaning doctors and researchers. Dr. Michael Holick is a name that comes up often in Vit D research and I believe he is a proponent of 40-60ng/ml. He also did a bunch of research into sun exposure and determined that exposure to the first sign of pinkness equated to about 20k IU, so that is a reference point about what your body is doing on it's own.

There appears to be no benefit for flu or COVID above about 50ng/ml, but for reduction of risk for other conditions (like cancer), I've seen recommendations as high as 80-100ng/ml. Most things I've read say intoxication comes at 150-200ng/ml.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

I just started her on it probably three or four weeks ago to make sure her immune system is good with all of this stuff going on with COVID-19. My wife and I take 5000 units daily, and I am out in the sun all the time, and my daughter and she are a moderate amount. If it helps protect us from getting sick from coronavirus, then I guess you have to pick your poison? I certainly do not want to cause toxicity in any of us.

You’re still probably fine with the 5,000 units daily. I don’t see the purpose of doing that dose for years. Build your reserves and then maintain.
I look at #s that don’t need to be monitored for ease of use and safety.

Only people that I would worry about are those folks that think if a moderate dose is good, then a megadose is great. They are also the crash weight loss folks that rapidly lose a bunch of weight. Bad combination of lots of fat stored vitamins.

Moderation in most things. VFL activies excluded.

 

[volatil]

You’re still probably fine with the 5,000 units daily. I don’t see the purpose of doing that dose for years. Build your reserves and then maintain.
I look at #s that don’t need to be monitored for ease of use and safety.

Only people that I would worry about are those folks that think if a moderate dose is good, then a megadose is great. They are also the crash weight loss folks that rapidly lose a bunch of weight. Bad combination of lots of fat stored vitamins.

Moderation in most things. VFL activies excluded.

5k for 8 weeks then 2k maintenance. And this concludes the Vitamin D portion of our broadcast. I absolutely hate this virus.

When we drinking?

 

[jpope9]

this man is a Vols treasure.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

It wasn't my intention to argue. I was trying to understand your position. The problem of "proper training or experience" is that there is little agreement within your own profession. In 2005 (at age 40), I started having a wide range of neurological problems, tremors, transient pain and weakness, memory issues, etc. After multiple doctors, the guy that helped me most was an Ivy League internist who had turned to more alternative methods after years of being unable to actually help his patients. This began a 15 year path of discovery where I managed to put myself back together after many mainstream guys failed. I agree that there is a lot of crap out there, but some of what you might call 'crap' gave me my life back, so we'll agree to disagree.

And for anyone who might be paying attention to what I say, I'm not giving medical advice, I'm explaining what I do personally and why.

I apologize for my response this morning.

My next door neighbor keeps asking for my medical advice and then questions every single thing that I tell him. “What should I do about this?” Well, You should do this because... then, “ But are you sure that you recommend that?” And on and on and on...

I had just been dealing with him last night. I had PTND (Post Traumatic Neighbor Disorder) and my flashback came as a nasty response to you.

There’s always an alternate way of doing things medically. I do understand that. I am careful with the things that have an LD50 (lethal dose to 50%) that can be attained with over the counter. Vitamin B-6 is a prime example. At higher than RDA dosing , it is a significant building block for neural repair. 100mg. However the LD50 is 400mg daily. At that dose, it becomes neurotoxic and can damage nerves.

I truly believe that the more I know, the less that I understand.

When I was in medical school, vitamin D was only for proper bone growth. Come to find out, that doesn’t even scratch the surface of everything that vitamin D does for us.

SSVOL, I hope that you will accept my apology.

 

[jakez4ut]

i hope he stays here forever.

 

[volatil]

i hope he stays here forever.

The man had a Dolly Parton T-shirt on. He’s not going anywhere

 

[OrangeBlood4life]

i hope he stays here forever.

Whoever the maroon is that's let nieds get hired away should be tarred and feathered..

You tell this man to name his price... blank check

 

[SSVol]

I apologize for my response this morning.

My next door neighbor keeps asking for my medical advice and then questions every single thing that I tell him. “What should I do about this?” Well, You should do this because... then, “ But are you sure that you recommend that?” And on and on and on...

I had just been dealing with him last night. I had PTND (Post Traumatic Neighbor Disorder) and my flashback came as a nasty response to you.

There’s always an alternate way of doing things medically. I do understand that. I am careful with the things that have an LD50 (lethal dose to 50%) that can be attained with over the counter. Vitamin B-6 is a prime example. At higher than RDA dosing , it is a significant building block for neural repair. 100mg. However the LD50 is 400mg daily. At that dose, it becomes neurotoxic and can damage nerves.

I truly believe that the more I know, the less that I understand.

When I was in medical school, vitamin D was only for proper bone growth. Come to find out, that doesn’t even scratch the surface of everything that vitamin D does for us.

SSVOL, I hope that you will accept my apology.

Enthusiastically accepted.

The internet has created a glut of dangerous advice. You have every right to be skeptical.