Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[CreiveHallVol]

I'm no Dr but I think there is a link between blood sugar levels and cholesterol. My cholesterol has never been bad, actually really good but my blood glucose levels were pre-diabetic. My doctor wanted to start me on meds and I refused, said I would control with diet. That's when I started a very low carb diet. Low carb diets typically mean you have have to eat more meat than before to offset some of the missing carbs. As I said before, I lost 40lbs which is good but with the increased meat (No I can't do just chicken and fish, I'm not a communist ), I was worried about my cholesterol. So I had a physical back in February and I asked the doctor about my cholesterol levels and he said they weren't bad the last time but even lower this time.

Me too!
I was diagnosed with hyperlipidemia 15 years ago. LDL was in the high 400S, Triglycerides were in the high 700s and my HDL was 12.

I've been on all the statins, tried vegan, vegetarian, high fiber, and none of it worked. I went low carb (less the 50 a day, most times less than 30) and within 4 months (I get blood work at least every 6 months for hypothyroidism, sometimes every 6 weeks if my liver proteins are high) my LDL went to 150, Tris around 160, and my HDL is up to 62.
I dropped 30 pounds (all in the belly, neck, sides).
Boom! Bring me the finest meats and cheeses! Now that I'm back in Miami Beach, I've replaced alot of the meat with seafood. I'm excited about my next blood work.

 

[KPT_VFL]

I tend to assume we pulled the plug on social distancing too quickly and we’re going to get a huge second wave of this thing in a few weeks.

Whether or not that’s the case, there’s no way they’re going to stuff 100k people in one spot every Saturday.

I don’t really think a second wave is coming. I tend to think it is an overreaction. Shutdown may have been necessary but I think there was no way the millions of deaths they predicted were happening. Especially with data in the Tennessee jails showing 98% of positive cases had no symptoms. Who’s to say millions more don’t have it or have had it? I don’t think this disease was ever that deadly and we are just being too cautious. They can’t shut down everything forever. Next season in Jeopardy too when the flu infects millions and kills 40k?

 

[SSVol]

TLDR: Vitamin D status is a significantly better predictor of outcomes than age or underlying conditions.

More info: Table 2 columns left to right are Vit D deficient, insufficient, and normal. The upper number in red boxes are underlying conditions, the bottom number is death. People with normal D died at 4.1%, in spite of 18.8% having underlying conditions. People with true deficiency died at 98.9%!, even though only 80% had underlying conditions. Table 4, after adjusting for age, sex, and comorbidity, people with insufficiency died at 763% the rate of normal D, and full deficiency died at 1012% the rate of normal D. Causation and association is always tricky, but from this data suggests that vitamin D status is a better predictor of outcome than comorbidity. Given D's established role in immunity, this is more evidence that D status is a causative factor. The people is this study were from southeast Asia (Indonesia), and were likely somewhat more racially homogeneous. That is important, since in the US, racial disparities and politics tend to overshadow the science.

Shut up and take your D.

 

[volatil]

 

[Kingston Vol]

I don’t really think a second wave is coming. I tend to think it is an overreaction. Shutdown may have been necessary but I think there was no way the millions of deaths they predicted were happening. Especially with data in the Tennessee jails showing 98% of positive cases had no symptoms. Who’s to say millions more don’t have it or have had it? I don’t think this disease was ever that deadly and we are just being too cautious. They can’t shut down everything forever. Next season in Jeopardy too when the flu infects millions and kills 40k?

I have no plans to get in this debate again, but we’ve shut down our country for over a month and have still lost 70k+ people. That’s serious and to act like it isn’t it ridiculous.

Now, maybe it isn’t as deadly as the worst case estimates and that’s a good thing! But when asking whether or not we should have sports and sports with spectators, deaths aren’t the only statistics being considered.

 

[Geaux_Vols]

SIAP:

Ranking the Top 25 coaches in college football

21. Jeremy Pruitt, Tennessee

Barton's take: "We’re currently in the midst of a Tennessee recruiting flurry but I’m not letting that cloud my judgment on the guy with 13 career wins as a head coach. What has me more optimistic is the way he’s come to those wins. It looks like Pruitt is building Tennessee to last. He’s recruiting at a high level, in the right places. He seems to be building a team with the foundation to win at the highest level with consistency. When success comes, it won’t just be a flash in the pan given the disciplined approach to roster building and the on-field product."

 

[KPT_VFL]

I have no plans to get in this debate again, but we’ve shut down our country for over a month and have still lost 70k+ people. That’s serious and to act like it isn’t it ridiculous.

Now, maybe it isn’t as deadly as the worst case estimates and that’s a good thing! But when asking whether or not we should have sports and sports with spectators, deaths aren’t the only statistics being considered.

I agree it’s serious but was everything shut down for swine flu? SARS? MERS? Etc.? We had a particularly bad flu season in 2018? Not a single word was mentioned. I think it’s something to be taken seriously and a shutdown was necessary but they can’t keep putting Americans out of work and holding people hostage from daily life until every cases is eradicated. I mean has Oregon even been hit that hard? They have said no fans already through September. I think a lot of this is political and dumb. Just checked and Oregon has 2600 cases state wide. Good for 40th in the US. So for them to go ahead and make a decision based on September is completely inept.

 

[Vols410]

SIAP:

Ranking the Top 25 coaches in college football

THIS THIS THIS.

Pruitt is building consistently, sustainability, and depth and that's the biggest difference between this staff and the previous. Last time around, we won games largely due to heroics from a few special players (Dobbs/Barnett/etc.), and last year we won 8 games despite total inexperience on the DL, a new OC, massive QB inconsistency, and a myriad of other issues. All while overcoming the dumpster-fire at the beginning. Depth and talent development.

Then from a roster perspective there's speed and size all over the place. Building in the trenches, loading up on OL/DL, stacking the LB corps with monsters, getting an elite QB recruit (and maybe another incoming), and surrounding that QB with speed everywhere. There's a recipe there. It's not star-hunting, but "building a team with a foundation to win at the highest level with CONSISTENCY."

Ramble over, but I'm so hyped for the decade of the Vols...

 

[SLICKYINC]

Me too!
I was diagnosed with hyperlipidemia 15 years ago. LDL was in the high 400S, Triglycerides were in the high 700s and my HDL was 12.

I've been on all the statins, tried vegan, vegetarian, high fiber, and none of it worked. I went low carb (less the 50 a day, most times less than 30) and within 4 months (I get blood work at least every 6 months for hypothyroidism, sometimes every 6 weeks if my liver proteins are high) my LDL went to 150, Tris around 160, and my HDL is up to 62.
I dropped 30 pounds (all in the belly, neck, sides).
Boom! Bring me the finest meats and cheeses! Now that I'm back in Miami Beach, I've replaced alot of the meat with seafood. I'm excited about my next blood work.

Nailed it. Liked it then unliked it so that I could like it again.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

I don’t really think a second wave is coming. I tend to think it is an overreaction. Shutdown may have been necessary but I think there was no way the millions of deaths they predicted were happening. Especially with data in the Tennessee jails showing 98% of positive cases had no symptoms. Who’s to say millions more don’t have it or have had it? I don’t think this disease was ever that deadly and we are just being too cautious. They can’t shut down everything forever. Next season in Jeopardy too when the flu infects millions and kills 40k?

Bingo.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

I have no plans to get in this debate again, but we’ve shut down our country for over a month and have still lost 70k+ people. That’s serious and to act like it isn’t it ridiculous.

Now, maybe it isn’t as deadly as the worst case estimates and that’s a good thing! But when asking whether or not we should have sports and sports with spectators, deaths aren’t the only statistics being considered.

I’m not sure how many of that 70k+ number you can trust. Maybe the majority but how many of those would’ve passed away from their underlying conditions in those nursing homes anyways?

 

[MrVolton]

Me too!
I was diagnosed with hyperlipidemia 15 years ago. LDL was in the high 400S, Triglycerides were in the high 700s and my HDL was 12.

I've been on all the statins, tried vegan, vegetarian, high fiber, and none of it worked. I went low carb (less the 50 a day, most times less than 30) and within 4 months (I get blood work at least every 6 months for hypothyroidism, sometimes every 6 weeks if my liver proteins are high) my LDL went to 150, Tris around 160, and my HDL is up to 62.
I dropped 30 pounds (all in the belly, neck, sides).
Boom! Bring me the finest meats and cheeses! Now that I'm back in Miami Beach, I've replaced alot of the meat with seafood. I'm excited about my next blood work.

I’ve been told by more than one health care professional that if you are genetically predisposed to high cholesterol, diet does very little to move it - only exercise and meds. But both said control triglycerides with low carb diet though.

I’ve faithfully taken a combo of zetia, fish oil pills, and a statin for a while now, exercised for a minimum of 45 minutes 3-4 days per week and eaten whatever I wanted for the last year. My numbers early March were the best they’ve ever been my entire adult life.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Is it just me, or does anyone else get tired of these random topic/question threads that are created in the recruiting forum? @BaldBiker, Can you add this to your sticky thread for all posters to read who are new to the site or come from the football forum?

 

[Smokey'sHandler]

Just heard on the sports animal that the leader of the covid 19 taskforce for UT said there will be no fans in Neyland Stadium this year. I just can't even began to invision Neyland not having fans. An atmosphere would be non existent.

This is just dumb even at this point. The CV situation is a very fluid situation and could change drastically within the next couple of months. If everything is true about this virus and sunlight the summer is truly going to change the outlook. I would say by the end of the June we will looking at a completely different response from these folks. Also in a couple of months there may be enough unrest going on that the so called "experts" will be backed into a corner on the subject.

I predict we will have fans in some capacity and wouldn't be too shocked if they allow 102,455. Personally I would go if they had a game today.

 

[Rishvol]

SIAP:

Ranking the Top 25 coaches in college football

Sounds like Pruitt is about to more than double his win total this year

 

[Kingston Vol]

I’m not sure how many of that 70k+ number you can trust. Maybe the majority but how many of those would’ve passed away from their underlying conditions in those nursing homes anyways?

Sure, but how many people died from it 1) before we knew what it was and 2) before we had widespread testing?

There are multiple factors that suggest the count may be overestimated and underestimated.

 

[KPT_VFL]

This is just dumb even at this point. The CV situation is a very fluid situation and could change drastically within the next couple of months. If everything is true about this virus and sunlight the summer is truly going to change the outlook. I would say by the end of the June we will looking at a completely different response from these folks. Also in a couple of months there may be enough unrest going on that the so called "experts" will be backed into a corner on the subject.

I predict we will have fans in some capacity and wouldn't be too shocked if they allow 102,455. Personally I would go if they had a game today.

I’d be there as well. This pretty much my outlook on all this.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

Live there now. The Vols Watch Party in Wrigleyville area is an unreal good time. Feels like home.

Ive been to TN games at The Bad Dog Tavern, Riverview Tavern, and now HVAC. Lots of fun

 

[Ryno14]

Ive been to TN games at The Bad Dog Tavern, Riverview Tavern, and now HVAC. Lots of fun

Hopefully by fall there will be a game to watch there. We'll have to grab a beer.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Lol

 

[jakez4ut]

TLDR: Vitamin D status is a significantly better predictor of outcomes than age or underlying conditions.

More info: Table 2 columns left to right are Vit D deficient, insufficient, and normal. The upper number in red boxes are underlying conditions, the bottom number is death. People with normal D died at 4.1%, in spite of 18.8% having underlying conditions. People with true deficiency died at 98.9%!, even though only 80% had underlying conditions. Table 4, after adjusting for age, sex, and comorbidity, people with insufficiency died at 763% the rate of normal D, and full deficiency died at 1012% the rate of normal D. Causation and association is always tricky, but from this data suggests that vitamin D status is a better predictor of outcome than comorbidity. Given D's established role in immunity, this is more evidence that D status is a causative factor. The people is this study were from southeast Asia (Indonesia), and were likely somewhat more racially homogeneous. That is important, since in the US, racial disparities and politics tend to overshadow the science.

Shut up and take your D.


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that's interesting......there's an element of "i don't know what i don't know" so i'm curious what other dynamics could be in play that might affect results, maybe as contributing factors, based on vitamin D levels?

kind of like the old JG debate...was it really ALL him...you look at his stats and say "abysmal, need a new qb", then start looking at OL, RB, WR, play calling etc....and it was more than just the QB stats on it's own.

so, Vit D being JG in this equation.......what role does the OL, WR, RB and play calling have here?

and regardless, we knew JG was a factor, signficant one, and he needed to improve.....so i'm still gonna continue to take D supplement daily...lol.

 

[Tri-CitiesVol]

I would take a 100% chance at coronavirus exposure if it meant seeing us beat Alabama or Florida in Neyland.

 

[jakez4ut]

Lol

it's all fun and games until you can't flip a low ranked 3* from a program you've dismissed.

 

[jakez4ut]

I would take a 100% chance at coronavirus exposure if it meant seeing us beat Alabama or Florida in Neyland.

make it Alabama AND Florida...........i'm in....no mask, no sanatizer...we could drink whisky out of the same bottle...whatever.

lol.

 

[Wickman]

I would take a 100% chance at coronavirus exposure if it meant seeing us beat Alabama or Florida in Neyland.

Inject me right now