Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Z06VolinWV]

Took my two boys to the OBX all the way to the N.C. VA border 2 weeks ago, love every minute with these two, PS a must do for any Jeep enthusiast!

Love OBX! We always stay in corolla, last summer was 8 miles up from the hard road. Too bad they closed all the back trails off tho.

 

[MarcoVol]

Rucker: Reality checks becoming more painful for Pruitt, Vols

Article basically sums up how I feel

 

[jacobyvoln27]

Love OBX! We always stay in corolla, last summer was 8 miles up from the hard road. Too bad they closed all the back trails off tho.
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That’s one nice ride buddy!

 

[Vols4us]

I just don't see it happening. He has a soft spot for the kid or something. I think he is making a mistake. JG may be a great practice QB, strains , and does things the right way. It is not translating to the field. The head coach should know and feel the pulse of the team. I think he has a morale problem .

Confirmed. They totally quit against UK and Bama treated them like it was an internal scrimmage. Lost both games miserably. Fires his d-line coach 4 games in. I don't know what else needs to be seen to realize it's a dumpster fire with several quality programs on the schedule left to play who are not going backwards like this one is.

Desperate times, desperate measures. Starts at QB. If that doesn't change, none of the rest matters.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

I think we may go to OBX next year for the first time. Have heard great things from everyone who goes

 

[RiotVol]

Rucker: Reality checks becoming more painful for Pruitt, Vols

Article basically sums up how I feel

I never would have thought I’d ever agree that much with Wes Rucker.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I think we may go to OBX next year for the first time. Have heard great things from everyone who goes

It's in NC.

FL.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

That’s one nice ride buddy!

Thanks! It’s actually my wife’s. I got it for her for her 40th bday, but I can’t help myself to not mod anything! I’ve had quite a few JKs the last 10 years, and we love the new JL platform.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Thanks! It’s actually my wife’s. I got it for her for her 40th bday, but I can’t help myself to not mod anything! I’ve had quite a few JKs the last 10 years, and we love the new JL platform.

Seems like Jeep owners mod the f out of wranglers. I have a ‘19 Sahara Unlimited and I love the clean look. All it has is a lift with bigger tires and that’s all it needs. To each their own but no way in hell I’d ever put up ridiculous angry face grills or even light bars etc

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

I just don't see it happening. He has a soft spot for the kid or something. I think he is making a mistake. JG may be a great practice QB, strains , and does things the right way. It is not translating to the field. The head coach should know and feel the pulse of the team. I think he has a morale problem .

I can definitely see where JG looks amazing in practice.

He’s going up against a defense that can’t get to the QB and can’t cover.

But on game days, he is so slow and can’t improvise. Idk.... he’s a huge liability. I don’t see how CJP doesn’t realize that.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Jeremy Pruitt's reasoning for not playing young players is a good sign for Vols

So Pruitt's saying there are bigger stronger and faster players on our team, but he won't play them because they haven't earned it.

I can’t believe you all are buying this.

 

[Leeleesteeth]

Does anybody know anything about the QB from MSU thats entering the portal? Mayden, Sophomore dual threat.

 

[Jackcrevol]

I can definitely see where JG looks amazing in practice.

He’s going up against a defense that can’t get to the QB and can’t cover.

But on game days, he is so slow and can’t improvise. Idk.... he’s a huge liability. I don’t see how CJP doesn’t realize that.

CJP doesnt think, nor do the others, that they have another choice. Which, truly is an indictment, why have Maurer and Shrooot not progessed as backups?

JG has hit his ceiling.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

Seems like Jeep owners mod the f out of wranglers. I have a ‘19 Sahara Unlimited and I love the clean look. All it has is a lift with bigger tires and that’s all it needs. To each their own but no way in hell I’d ever put up ridiculous angry face grills or even light bars etc

Yea, there’s a def a point of gaudiness that some Jeep owners reach!! Grumper bumpers are hideous! Not a fan of light bars either.
Let’s see your Sahara.

 

[Batman1948]

Hahah. Yes!!!! And yeah she absolutely is. She’s already so loved & she’s not even out of the womb. I’ve always wanted to be a father. Life long dream. It’s just amazing how fulfilling it already feels and I’ve not even gotten to hold her

In about 16 years, you're gonna need a shotgun and just remember this phrase for the guys who want to date her----"I don't mind going back to prison". That should do it

 

[rjd970]

Gotta give Pruitt 5 years.

But man, it’s hard not to believe we will be coach searching again in 2 years. Signs are there, writing is on the wall.

Dooley and Jones...uninspired play, not close with rivals, losing games we shouldn’t, inexplicable coaching decisions. It’s all there with Pruitt right now.

 

[jakez4ut]

I can definitely see where JG looks amazing in practice.

He’s going up against a defense that can’t get to the QB and can’t cover.

But on game days, he is so slow and can’t improvise. Idk.... he’s a huge liability. I don’t see how CJP doesn’t realize that.

i think three things on this, and it's kinda always bugged me how we believe CJP should handle it, publically anyway. and this isn't aimed at just you, many, man posts of this ilk by a lot of posters....i think he and chaney do realize it. but they're never, ever gonna acknowledge it publically....i'm in the camp that simply refuses to believe that this collection of coaches simply "doesn't see"...

1. he's never gonna run a kid down to the point where it's obvious that he thinks the kid sucks.
2. there's no way they don't know what they have in JG, and i still say that should speak volulmes on what they see from the other guys. it also says a lot when you see them basically shelf the passing game in games...they've done it multiple times this year and last year, where they've taken the ball out of his hands, and just leaned on the run game. that tells me just how much confidence they have in him...when it comes down to brass tacks....and it's "have to" time......they take it out of his hands.
3. IF those two things are true, then you have no choice but to go "100% support" for the guy you are gonna start....and that means making it known that you believe in him and have confidence in even if, ESPECIALLY if, you aren't anywhere close with the guys behind him. call it manufacturing confidence.............

none of that necessarily alters the debate of whether or not someone else should get a shot during a game.....but in regards to what the coaches see/don't see, i just don't believe for a second that if they had what they believed to be a better option, they'd still go with JG.....

 

[jakez4ut]

CJP doesnt think, nor do the others, that they have another choice. Which, truly is an indictment, why have Maurer and Shrooot not progessed as backups?

JG has hit his ceiling.

i think JG and Shrout have something to do with that too...and i still say we'll never know what could have been, had we had a realy QB competition from spring, thru summer in to Fall. so detrimental to the QB development, behind JG. cause i agree, he's hit the ceiling....

fact is, we have no idea where the ceilings are for the other three, though i'd wager HB's is highest.

 

[Jackcrevol]

i think JG and Shrout have something to do with that too...and i still say we'll never know what could have been, had we had a realy QB competition from spring, thru summer in to Fall. so detrimental to the QB development, behind JG. cause i agree, he's hit the ceiling....

fact is, we have no idea where the ceilings are for the other three, though i'd wager HB's is highest.

truth is, and this may be hard for some to swallow...our QB's may just not be very good .

Maurer has most potential iyam. But as one expert said TN messed up when they cut ties with Adrian Martinez. HB and Salter are future.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Yea, there’s a def a point of gaudiness that some Jeep owners reach!! Grumper bumpers are hideous! Not a fan of light bars either.
Let’s see your Sahara.

 

[Chuckie]

Why, oh why couldn’t the mizzou game have been before the bye week?!?!?!?!

The only thing worse than having your teeth kicked in is having to wallow in the ass beating for two weeks.

 

[Batman1948]

Been thinking about a interview I heard on a Knoxville radio station a couple weeks ago and wondering what the opinions of this theory would be on here. Before I go on please understand I didn't grow up a Vol fan. So while I continue to learn the history of the program realize I don't have the same perspective as some as I didn't move to TN until 2006. Started rooting for the Vols in 2010ish and a season ticket holder in 2015. So I missed the glory years and would really like to get back to that so I can experience it first hand.

I won't say the station or the person making these comments at first because I already know most would tune it out just based on that haha. But the interviewee brought up an explanation of our current status in the CFB landscape. On the surface it makes sense. But didn't know if he was just hating on UT. He said one big reason we are struggling is because of how CFB has exploded over the last 20 years and tv deals probably hurt teams like us and Nebraska the most. Mainly because almost every game is on TV or a streaming service and everyone has weekly access to almost every team now. Where as in the 80s and 90s we were regularly featured on a national broadcast and kids from all over the south followed us. Many of them came to UT so they could play on a big stage in front of a national audience on TV. Which is why CPF could go into South Carolina (and other surrounding states) and recruit big name players to come to UT. He continued by saying our expectations as fans haven't caught up with the effect TV has had on our program. Also mentioned its hard on us because Tennessee isn't really a power state in terms of high school talent on a national scale.

On the surface it makes sense. I just wondered what the opinion was on this from some of you seasoned UT vets. For the record I don't like this guy as he is a big UT hater. Just found this outlook interesting.

I think the 85 scholarship limit changed the landscape for everyone. That and the 25 scholarships per year has put more parity in the game and gave tons of outliers better players. Now, the "bluebloods" still get the cream of the 25 limit per year and that will never change. We just have to figure out how to get back to 'blueblood" status.

 

[jakez4ut]

truth is, and this may be hard for some to swallow...our QB's may just not be very good .

Maurer has most potential iyam. But as one expert said TN messed up when they cut ties with Adrian Martinez. HB and Salter are future.

not 100% sold that we walked away from Martinez as much as it may have been a mutual thing. he liked NE and Frost, and when they got together, it made that situation way more attractive. Helton and Pruitt did travel and visit him in home....so there had to be some ineterest in pursuing him. i'd imagine that it just wound up being a mutual deal....

as to the rest, pretty much agree. Shrout was a project, and we knew it. Maurer was less so, but there was some ?'s on the level of competition he had in that FL division, andthere was the well documented elite 11 camp, which he did well and worked his way up that ladder....

point being, neither one was brought here to be "the guy"....competition and depth. it's also why christ and the MD kid were brought in and why we were going after JT Daniels. we knew, and have known, that the QB position was in flux, and they've tried to increase the talent level and overall competition level, but none of it has panned out.

we can blame the coaches for that, ultimately, it is their responsibilty...but i don't think it's for lack of effort, or recognition, that the positon wasn't "set".....we missed on the recruiting trail, up until HB, and none of the GT's we've brougth in or tried for have worked out....and it appears even if we had gotten JT Daniels, that'd of been another bust as he's not doing a thing in Athens except rehab.

timing of all of it sucked....but....looking ahead, HB and Salter really give that room a big boost, and if we're still able to get simpson, i think you can say the QB position would be addressed....

we're just still stuck in this funk right now.....and it's gotten old.

 

[snowvols]

truth is, and this may be hard for some to swallow...our QB's may just not be very good .

Maurer has most potential iyam. But as one expert said TN messed up when they cut ties with Adrian Martinez. HB and Salter are future.

Martinez is just slightly better than JG. He is already splitting time with a FR and will more than likely lose his job to him.

 

[Batman1948]

I can definitely see where JG looks amazing in practice.

He’s going up against a defense that can’t get to the QB and can’t cover.

But on game days, he is so slow and can’t improvise. Idk.... he’s a huge liability. I don’t see how CJP doesn’t realize that.

I've thought that very same thing for a very long time. What does it say about our other QB's if they're so bad in practice against that same defense? Scary