Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[volfan1631]

Would lincoln Riley come for that

i doubt it he's gonna be making that this year

 

[jdavis675]

If the NCAA hammers UT, it's because our Chancellor handed them far more than they would have ever found on their own. The NCAA is understaffed, overburdened and lacks the manpower to dig deep and cast a wide net. They're set up to enforce, not investigate, and have a huge backlog that lets a lot of things slide under the radar. But when you serve up your transgressions on a silver platter, with all the evidence organized and triple-checked, the NCAA tends to look a lot closer and make you a higher priority. If you really want to pique their interest, you invite NCAA reps to ZOOM in on meetings where you present evidence that nails you, followed by a presser where leadership emphasizes how serious, shocking and widespread your violations are.

Other schools avoid, delay, divert and deny deny deny, forcing the NCAA to allocate resources they don't have to prove things that take a lot of time, effort and evidence to prove, which the NCAA isn't all that keen to do. All while the school continues to do what they do. See LSU, Auburn, Bama, UGA, etc. etc.

We are following the Tyndall playbook, which worked out nicely for the basketball program.

 

[KB5252]

So help me...if we get hit hard by the NCAA we need to sell out anybody and everybody. Let the media know what Bama And Georgia have been up to. We handled the situation from a PR standpoint about as good as you can. We fired 9 or 10 people. There is no reason that we should get hit hard by sanctions.

Read LAVols post. They don't have resources to investigate, and we don't have the details to serve it up to them.

 

[LA Vol]

A failure by Chancellor then?

She achieved her goals. We'll see about the cost.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Man I love that Chadwell interview. Hope he’s our guy

Which interview? Link, please.

 

[beneVOLence]

Guys I know yall are probably going to disown me and send me off to the football forum , but after much thought on this I am in Steeles corner. I mean the 2 coaches we all want is Freeze or Kiffin. In my opinion the only route to being able to hire either one of these guys is still 2 or 3 years down the road. Steele rights the ship for a few years and navigates us through the sanctions and all. He probably goes 500 over that time span then steps down and we go get our big name. I think we will be fine in recruiting also Steele will recruit at the same level or maybe even better than we have been doing over the last decade. I think this is our best play. Not to panic and take a step back. OK I know yall hate me now...lol

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

Did this Scott Carter go to Halls HS? The years line up.

Chadwell and Carter would have competed in the same region in high school, because that was the region I competed in

He's for sure from Knoxville. Not sure what school he went to.

 

[BogeyVol]

Would lincoln Riley come for that

Nope. Why would he? OU will bump him to get him to stay, and he's already making 6.5M. OU isn't a smoldering trash heap at the moment either...

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Feldman on 1045 Nashville

Doesn't think that things around Tennessee will be resolved anytime soon. Gets messier and messier as time goes on. "Somehow have found a way to make things worse over and over"

"Have you ever seen a program hit itself harder over the head than they did on Monday?"
No. Talking about duplicity between what Chancellor and Prez were saying vs what is/was done. Can't believe the level of self-snitching.
Thought it was funny that Fulmer cited "good recruiting" during the conference.
They're praising Fulmer, but then everything that is playing out.
Accuses leadership of being tone deaf, especially after clown show of last hiring process. Now all of this. Remarkable ineptitude.

Need someone is either desperate to get into SEC
Tennessee is still somewhat desirable
Going to be a stretch to find someone with good coaching stock to come to UT. Unless they love the university or have a connection.
NCAA sanctions looming are going to hurt. Thinks NCAA is going to hit Tennessee hard. Will be reeling from sanctions for a couple of years. Could lead to players leaving. Will put UT back pretty substantially.

Everyone should be disturbed about short term future.
"We thought UT couldn't GIVE the job away three years ago. AND NOW the NCAA is hanging over the program.

Thinks it might be worth it to "sit out" of coaching search and hang where things are at. Try again this time next year.

I think it's pretty easy to see that Feldmans source is Steele

 

[snowvols]

More Feldman on 1045 Nashville

"Will clearing house help with NCAA?"
Maybe if there was just one or two coaches acting as fall guys you can say you got rid of the bad actors. The fact that they got rid of 10 people looks like it was widespread and deep.

Still thinks that a lot of things will surface in UT vs Pruitt. Could get really ugly.
Thinks it's all about getting out of the buyout. Doesn't think Pruitt or UT want to see a court room. Headscratcher.

How did they get into a situation where getting rid of him is more expensive than what's about to happen to the program? Airing all sorts of dirty laundry. Makes the next hire that much harder. Makes his job that much harder. Puts UT in cross hairs. Did they have no other choice? It really wasn't THAT much money.

So that goes back to the investigation. They felt like they have no other choice because they found egregious stuff. No way to get around this.

Should have just fired him after UF or A&M and move on.

 

[Deebowbear]

SIAP... Hubbs now saying AD should be announced by Friday.

Boom

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

She achieved her goals. We'll see about the cost.

Do you not trust the Glazer lawyers?

 

[butchna]

Would lincoln Riley come for that

You don’t get these guys when they’re PROVEN.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Nah. Love kiffin but i think he’s super overrated.

Nah. He’s a guy who can score lots of points. Pair him with the right DC and sky’s the limit

 

[Volsfaninva917]

SIAP... Hubbs now saying AD should be announced by Friday.

Where did he say this?

 

[SLICKYINC]

Boom

 

[volbeast33]

If the NCAA hammers UT, it's because our Chancellor handed them far more than they would have ever found on their own. The NCAA is understaffed, overburdened and lacks the manpower to dig deep and cast a wide net. They're set up to enforce, not investigate, and have a huge backlog that lets a lot of things slide under the radar. But when you serve up your transgressions on a silver platter, with all the evidence organized and triple-checked, the NCAA tends to look a lot closer and make you a higher priority. If you really want to pique their interest, you invite NCAA reps to ZOOM in on meetings where you present evidence that nails you, followed by a presser where leadership emphasizes how serious, shocking and widespread your violations are.

Other schools avoid, delay, divert and deny deny deny, forcing the NCAA to allocate resources they don't have to prove things that take a lot of time, effort and evidence to prove, which the NCAA isn't all that keen to do. All while the school continues to do what they do. See LSU, Auburn, Bama, UGA, etc. etc.

That’s how you win..... do what the other schools.... you turn in yourself and you get more trouble from what I have seen.

 

[butchna]

SIAP... Hubbs now saying AD should be announced by Friday.

I promised tomorrow two days ago! Glorified one upping...

 

[snowvols]

Does the NCAA really hammer people anymore? Ole Miss didnt get hit bad and they had a lot of stuff going on and tried to blame it all on a previous coach. Pruitt shouldn't be allowed to go back to Bama though. They blocked Freeze from taking an assistant job because he got Ole Miss on sanctions. Pruitt should be untouchable to whatever penalty we get is over.

 

[Dudleys87]

Feldman on 1045 Nashville

Doesn't think that things around Tennessee will be resolved anytime soon. Gets messier and messier as time goes on. "Somehow have found a way to make things worse over and over"

"Have you ever seen a program hit itself harder over the head than they did on Monday?"
No. Talking about duplicity between what Chancellor and Prez were saying vs what is/was done. Can't believe the level of self-snitching.
Thought it was funny that Fulmer cited "good recruiting" during the conference.
They're praising Fulmer, but then everything that is playing out.
Accuses leadership of being tone deaf, especially after clown show of last hiring process. Now all of this. Remarkable ineptitude.

Need someone is either desperate to get into SEC
Tennessee is still somewhat desirable
Going to be a stretch to find someone with good coaching stock to come to UT. Unless they love the university or have a connection.
NCAA sanctions looming are going to hurt. Thinks NCAA is going to hit Tennessee hard. Will be reeling from sanctions for a couple of years. Could lead to players leaving. Will put UT back pretty substantially.

Everyone should be disturbed about short term future.
"We thought UT couldn't GIVE the job away three years ago. AND NOW the NCAA is hanging over the program.

Thinks it might be worth it to "sit out" of coaching search and hang where things are at. Try again this time next year.

Go ahead and sit out Feldman and when Tennessee hires Chadwell and starts winning I don’t want to hear a peep from you.

 

[KB5252]

She achieved her goals. We'll see about the cost.

Do you think she understands or took into account the collateral damage or is she a "by the book" person and felt obligated to respond the way she did?

If it's the latter I can understand that, at a former job I had the unfortunate duty to investigate and report a situation within a department that affected many people I considered friends.

 

[OrangeDrip]

She achieved her goals. We'll see about the cost.

How likely do you think it is that we get hammered? I don’t see how they could given the penalties that places like UF, Ole Miss and LSU have received.

 

[Dudleys87]

Does the NCAA really hammer people anymore? Ole Miss didnt get hit bad and they had a lot of stuff going on and tried to blame it all on a previous coach. Pruitt shouldn't be allowed to go back to Bama though. They blocked Freeze from taking an assistant job because he got Ole Miss on sanctions. Pruitt should be untouchable to whatever penalty we get is over.

We cut the head of the snake and sent the handlers home. The AA won’t do much of anything now

 

[Catbone]

If the NCAA hammers UT, it's because our Chancellor handed them far more than they would have ever found on their own. The NCAA is understaffed, overburdened and lacks the manpower to dig deep and cast a wide net. They're set up to enforce, not investigate, and have a huge backlog that lets a lot of things slide under the radar. But when you serve up your transgressions on a silver platter, with all the evidence organized and triple-checked, the NCAA tends to look a lot closer and make you a higher priority. If you really want to pique their interest, you invite NCAA reps to ZOOM in on meetings where you present evidence that nails you, followed by a presser where leadership emphasizes how serious, shocking and widespread your violations are.

Other schools avoid, delay, divert and deny deny deny, forcing the NCAA to allocate resources they don't have to prove things that take a lot of time, effort and evidence to prove, which the NCAA isn't all that keen to do. All while the school continues to do what they do. See LSU, Auburn, Bama, UGA, etc. etc.

Bingo.

We are screwed.

 

[Bigworm87]

It's humorous that the University thought that they could pass Fulmer leaving as "retiring". Now that the "separation" agreement is released it plainly shows he was fired without cause. Thats just another example as to how dumb they think the fans are. They've been feeding us sh!t for years with glitter on it and expect us to eat it up. They've got another thing coming if they screw up this time.