Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[jakez4ut]

Would you have liked a Sam Pittman hire

no, and i'm not convinced ARK will either in a couple of years. sure this year was good, and i'll give credit on the staff he put together.

but it just screams start fast and fade.....we'll see.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Dan Mullen had 0 HC experience when he took over Mississippi State and just 3 years ago, most of this board wanted him.
Mullen and Elliott have gone down similar paths to this point in their careers, Elliott is also close to the age Mullen was when he went to Miss St.

Mehlan is and always will be "Meh" to me because of his goofy ass dork personality...

Elliot is not a "Meh" coach, he has a great personality...he is Cutcliffe in 98. If had put a good defensive staff together there, he would have been there a long time.

I have never said Mehlan was a bad football coach, I have said that he would not recruit very well at UT...but I think a guy like Elliot would. He is normal, intelligent, charming and a good offensive coach.

If he was the hire, what I have said about any offensive guy we have talked about holds true...His success would totally depend on putting together a good defensive staff.

 

[MarcoVol]

Would you have liked a Sam Pittman hire

No and I’ll be curious how it works out in year 3 under Pittman. They had a lot of guys decide to come back for next season. So let’s see how year 3 goes without all of that experience.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

He’s seemed to do pretty damn well at Arkansas.

He went 3-7 and lucked into Barry Odom. He had a better first year than many expected but let’s hold off on anointing him

 

[99Vol]

Butch hung 38 on him at Georgia and beat him. Georgia tech beat him. Florida beat him.

Cole is friends with Pruitt of course he’s saying that.

The red flags were there... everyone ignored them including me because we were happy to have them here. We shouldn’t have ignored them. Because the same person that was showing us red flags... showed back up here and nearly took everything we love down to the ground.

It certainly appears from all the stories that the environment was not T’d up to succeed. It also seems the more we know CFP’s activity as AD didn’t help. I can’t imagine and AD requesting game plans and sitting in on team meetings, as if he is a coach, would allow anyone to succeed. Pruitt did bring in more SEC talent and developed some raw talent sans our 2 corners that were really receivers but started as freshman. Or HT. Or some of the D line converted from OT or TE. I think he could coach, the rest is a bit blurry. We didn’t need blurry, didn’t need a toxic environment and didn’t need an AD as assistant coach.

 

[Scvol7906]

Georgetown, SC is four hours away from Clemson. I kind of doubt that they flew all the way to the other end of the state to meet with Elliott.

Georgetown is on the coast of SC, which is not far from Coastal Carolina

 

[85SugarVol]

Found myself 100 pages behind..... again

Anything new since yesterday evening?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Mehlan is and always will be "Meh" to me because of his goofy ass dork personality...

Elliot is not a "Meh" coach, he has a great personality...he is Cutcliffe in 98. If had put a good defensive staff together there, he would have been there a long time.

I have never said Mehlan was a bad football coach, I have said that he would not recruit very well at UT...but I think a guy like Elliot would. He is normal, intelligent, charming and a good offensive coach.

If he was the hire, what I have said about any offensive guy we have talked about holds true...His success would totally depend on putting together a good defensive staff.

Which is why I hope Steele sticks around. Pair Elliott with Steele and I think we would be fine.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Did his experience failing at USC help him?

We don’t know if he failed. His alcoholism didn’t allow him to finish there. I don’t think it’s fair to say he failed. He went 9-4 in his only full season

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

He’s seemed to do pretty damn well at Arkansas.

3-7

Killing it.

 

[Vols410]

They’ve also had Watson and Trevor Lawrence

And Kelly Bryant, Elliot's worst year offensively. #14

That would've been Chad Morris' second best in 4 years at Clemson.

 

[reeceb73]

He’s seemed to do pretty damn well at Arkansas.

He killed it there his first year. I was very impressed.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Found myself 100 pages behind..... again

Anything new since yesterday evening?

Bass and Hank have been fighting all day.
Stoerner said it won't be Freeze or Chadwell.
Watch Pete Thames as well as Low and Feldman

 

[SweetasSoda]

Love this!

 

[SergeantVol]

I’d take elliot over Sonny Dykes and Buffs Coach.
my list looks like this:
1) Campbell
2) Kiffin
3) Freeze
4) Fitzgerald
5) Fleck
6) Elliot
7)Huepel
8) Dykes
9) Leipold
10) haven’t made it this far

 

[jakez4ut]

Mehlan is and always will be "Meh" to me because of his goofy ass dork personality...

Elliot is not a "Meh" coach, he has a great personality...he is Cutcliffe in 98. If had put a good defensive staff together there, he would have been there a long time.

I have never said Mehlan was a bad football coach, I have said that he would not recruit very well at UT...but I think a guy like Elliot would. He is normal, intelligent, charming and a good offensive coach.

If he was the hire, what I have said about any offensive guy we have talked about holds true...His success would totally depend on putting together a good defensive staff.

thats they way you gotta look at it, if that's what were to happen. good stuff.

 

[drylo]

Is Bob Stoops anyone's ideal candidate?

I could see him being a major letdown. Make him one of the highest paid coaches in the country only to find out the game has passed him by.

Seriously. UNC made this mistake with Mack Brown. Heck, we did the same thing with Rick Barnes and not sure UT basketball will ever recover.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Found myself 100 pages behind..... again

Anything new since yesterday evening?

It’s a beautiful day out today so I’ve only been skimming randomly but from what I can tell:

Tony Elliott was the thought this morning
Someone found a tracker that showed we flew into Georgetown SC and fly later to Chicago.
Thought was Chadwell who SF wasn’t an option. Chicago was for either Pat Fitzgerald or Campbell since ames Iowa is close by.

Outside of that no clue

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Found myself 100 pages behind..... again

Anything new since yesterday evening?

Not a single thing. We are still going down the list of every single coach in the FBS and NFL to see if any fit or make sense as to the one who is the top target.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

And Kelly Bryant, Elliot's worst year offensively. #14

That would've been Chad Morris' second best in 4 years at Clemson.

We don’t even know if Elliot was calling the plays then. He was co OC with Scott

 

[Ten_Titans]

As a kiffin fan, I’d like your opinion on this. What do you make of him allegedly willing to do the same thing to ole miss as he did with us?

Here's a question...

Why is leaving a school for a new job a POS move after one season but not after 2-3 seasons?

You think he isn't telling everybody in year 3 he's gonna be around, just like he did in year 1?

Because if it isn't about lying to players and the leadership, what is it about? Employees leave for better opportunities all the time, and at any time.

Kiffin's POS move was trying to get recruits to bail on UT with him. Kiffin jumped out of the car but the AD are the ones that steered it into the median. I know. Unpopular opinion.

 

[Vols410]

We don’t even know if Elliot was calling the plays then. He was co OC with Scott

2015 article. Scott even said Elliott was calling the plays.

Without further ado, let me put some of these questions and fears to rest: Tony Elliott calls all plays for the Clemson offense. How do I know that? When the two were announced as co-coordinators, Dabo, Scott, and Elliott all said as much in very plain language. On Sunday, Dec. 7th, just days after making the announcement that Scott and Elliott would be co-coordinators, Dabo announced that Tony Elliott would be calling plays. A few days later, in a joint press conference, Elliott discussed how he plans on calling the plays and managing the game. Scott went on to joke that he proposed they divide the play calling duties so that he could call first and second downs and Elliott could call third and fourth downs, but ends by saying that, "We figured this [Tony calling plays] was probably the best way." Tony Elliott was announced as the play caller almost immediately by Dabo. Tony and Jeff have both, consistently, confirmed that Elliott is the one calling the plays. There has been nothing said by anyone directly associated with Clemson to the contrary, so we have every reason to believe that Tony Elliott is the one calling plays for the Clemson Tiger offense.

 

[snowvols]

They’ve also had Watson and Trevor Lawrence

They had the 12th ranked offense in the country with Kelly Bryant.

 

[jakez4ut]

3-7

Killing it.

lol. gave the like, cause, well...it's just obvious.

but, all things relative, winning 3 SEC games was a feat many thought incapable at ARK considering how well they've fared agianst the conf in recent seasons.

so it was a good start, relatively speaking....not convinced it's sustainable....deinitely.

 

[m1al]

As a kiffin fan, I’d like your opinion on this. What do you make of him allegedly willing to do the same thing to ole miss as he did with us?

He doesn't seem to like to stay in one place very long......