Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Mullins2010]

 

[msanford52]

No planes flew anywhere today. No new offers were made. We have the same primary target. I still don’t know who that is, unfortunately. I realize everyone will turn on me soon, if I can’t get a name. Kudos to White for getting everyone to behave. Of the names the media has mentioned, Elliot and Fleck are backup plans. Others mentioned are just air. My friend said that every candidate has been asked to provide a sample staffing plan, recruiting territory plan, and vision for the program. The primary candidate is not a Sexton client, and has asked to be walked through NCAA exposure. If we move down the list, their will be a letdown among the boosters. They’re all very confident that they have a bulletproof plan. If we miss, I’m sure White will find a good fit. It just may not be the big fish they believe we’ve already landed.

SF again. Gotta be patient I'm thinking.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Two things we all need to remember:

1. It's almost a guarantee the next guy is gonna get fired, whether it's in 3 years, 5 years, 7 years, etc. He's eventually gonna get shitcanned for not winning enough games. Yes, on a long enough timeline, even Lane Kiffin is almost a surefire bet to get fired with the fans hating his guts by his last season or two.

2. We aren't getting someone without some blemishes. Thankfully, we will likely get someone with a lot of upside who isn't a McGoogle, but we aren't getting a guy who is just an all around perfect hire. We've hashed out why everyone sucks at this point, and whoever the hire is will be someone that a vocal contingent of fans absolutely hate and will be convinced will fail from day one.

I think your first point is a really good point. And one I will admit I am reluctant to admit. This hire we are about to make needs to be able to install a winning culture and family atmosphere. We also need to get rid of the toxicity around the program. Unless its someone like Matt Campbell or another superstar the next hire is most likely capped at 8-9 wins. Now this is where I disagree with Bruin, the second hire is the hot shot you get and watch this program take off like a rocket ship. But this hire we are about to make needs to mother goose the program through its youth and teenage years before it takes flight and runs as an adult.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I have my heart set on either Fleck or Elliott at this point.

 

[yourstruly23]

RF every time Fleck says “Row the boat” 6 sentences into his presser.

I’m dying...

 

[Orange Studs]

Lol, I grew up as a preacher's kid. Understand this.

I could not care any less in the least what kind of shoes this man has on. If he brings a coach here that wins consistently and big, that man could wear hawaiian shirts everyday.

I am both! A preachers kid and a preacher. lol

 

[VolGee4]

Anyone with a brain understands why this fan base is negative. We’ve watched admin after admin hire crap coach after crap coach. Give us a winning coach and we become the best fan base in college sports and it’s really that simple.

Let’s at least give our AD more than 2 days to make a hire rather than ****ting on it. At some point, the negativity becomes unbearable and frankly unwarranted at this moment.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Vescovi needs to sit

You need to sit.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

100% out @HankHill

lol it doesnt matter. these fans will swallow whatever coach they trot out there with a big ass smile on their face.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

“Campbell’s asking for 7.5...”

 

[volswillrise12]

I can’t believe DW didn’t want to meet with leadership team from Volnation to make sure he got someone we approve of.

We have the biggest whiners in the country that’s for sure. White will hire someone and most of the people on the board will accept it and move on. I don’t care personally what some keyboard commando’s opinion of PJ Fleck is..it means nothing to me. Just hire the best guy. People are so obsessed with hiring “the” guy that’s going to bring the program to mid-90a glory. It doesn’t make sense nor is it possible. Every time you fire a guy or end up having this massive upheaval in personnel player or otherwise you are just restarting the clock another 5 years. Just hire the dude shut up and let him build the program the way he wants to...geez us

 

[m1al]

Ok let’s reset - Kiffin or Campbell

I like Kiffin, but if we can get him, I'll roll with Campbell...

 

[Jackcrevol]

You guys will hear stuff tmmrw

ok.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

I have my heart set on either Fleck or Elliott at this point.

I certainly hope White is better at picking coaches than you.

 

[SmokinBob]

Let’s go basketvols!

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Campbell Caravan?

Until he publicly turns us down I’m all aboard.

 

[BruinVol]

No on Sciano. I thought Miles might have been a good stabilizing hire. I knew going a first time head coach was doomed. Honestly, I've tried to forget that whole span of time.

Ok so I’m proud you admit you wanted Miles


Honesty the last 10 years hiring coaches has seem to get much harder. It just seems so very unpredictable but I had a post earlier where the assistant coaches hired had been way most successful than hiring sitting head coaches over the last 6-8 years.

I can recall all these coaches being proclaimed as the next great coach around here

frost
Kelly
Strong
Fuente
Taggert
Novell
Sumlin


and they all are awful. I’d say 99.9 % of us at some point would have jumped for joy for at least one those names. Now we’d vomit and that just goes to show you it’s very hard to know how good some coaches are

 

[PolkVol]

“Campbell’s asking for 7.5...”

Who's Jimmy Hallam?

 

[Ron Swanson]

Anyone know the woman wearing the event staff shirt? We need her to share their conversation ASAP.

 

[jaybird_1981]

Freddie Kitchens incoming.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I certainly hope White is better at picking coaches than you.

I certainly hope you come up with a better zinger some point soon.

 

[seaofORANGE22]

In one of the interviews I watched, DW talked about how he looks for a coach that has a style of play that matches the talent and culture in the region of the school. This doesn't point to Fleck imo. I would guess Napier would be ahead of him. Elliott makes sense with that too. But who knows.

I don't think Fleck would be bad. I think some of the stuff he does when they run out of the tunnel is awesome. He's a leader of men and his team obviously plays hard for him. He could have a big impact here. He doesn't scream home run to me though. But we could certainly do worse.

I think Campbell is good enough to where the regional part doesn't matter. He's just electric and he's clearly a "builder". I think he's got to be the one guy they go all in on.

 

[Fairacres Vol]

I could have made that layup at the end

No you couldn't. They would have smoked your stuff out of bounds. That is if you could make it down the court that fast, which I seriously doubt.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

Stoerner making it sound like the primary target is a seriously big ass fish.
Is White ballsy and brave enough to have been after someone like Stoops this whole time?

 

[SDV]

Anyone know the woman wearing the event staff shirt? We need her to share their conversation ASAP.

Whoa! That’s huge