Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

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He may feel like he has reached his ceiling there or that he needs a fresh start. I think even very good coaches ultimately end up mismanaging things after a while or lose their spark and it’s in their best interests to start over somewhere new. Most don’t and just fade until they get fired.
I’m all for backing someone else’s money up to Pat Fitzgerald’s door. Load after load, if we can get him.
 
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I’ve been busy around the house today, but just finished catching up on nearly 100 pages lol. Good lord you guys are freaks.

Anyway, seems like today was a good day to miss. What a depressing 100 pages, IMO. I cannot get behind Fleck or Elliot. No more coordinators. And the thought of Fleck’s Butch Jones Ass mannerisms and catch phrases already has me puking.

Please let the great white whale of Campbell’s chicken noodle soup be the pick.
 
The question that was asked the other day that might be the most important qualification is who is on the list that has big enough stones to deal with this place and has thick enough skin to see this process through and can reasonably do it? Guys we are a handful and have incredibly high expectations (and we should).

Here is my list of guys that fit that bill:

Kiffin
Freeze
Chadwell
Herman

Unsure about: Campbell, Cristobal, Fickell
 
I believe we’re throwing the kitchen sink at Campbell

This name makes the most sense and it's not even close. With the smoke I would think something would come out soon about how he's taken his name out of it or he's staying at Iowa State forever (why would someone do that?).

The fact that this didn't happen today kinda gives me a little hope.

Anybody have anything new on the Cyclone boards?

Come home Matt. The mountains are calling you. We could be great together.
 
Such a terrible take.

While, yes, Harbaugh had set a foundation, a very good foundation, he was 29-21 at Stanford.

Shaw has been at Stanford for 10 seasons; and keep in mind STANFORD, look at the history...and, not counting this past year: on average, he is winning almost 10 games a year, 75% of his games. He has won three Pac 12 camphionships, and won or tied for 5 division championships. As I said, not counting this past year, that is nine seasons, he has won or tied for a division title 5 of those. He's 5-3 in bowl games. As I told you the other night, besides this last season, which was his worst at 4-8, his next worst season was in 2014 at 8-5. All of this at Stanford, look at the history.

Look, I know you will want to argue, and go back and forth; but, im not going to. I believe your take on Shaw is a terrible one. If you truly believe those numbers is "gotten worse"...it's actually laughable, dude.

Read up on your history before you tell me my take was terrible

harbough was the program builder. He went 12-1 his last year there and left Shaw a great loaded program.

Since then Shaw has done very well but it’s faltered lately.

Shaw has lost more games in the last 3.5 years (this year was only 6 games) than he lost in his first 6 years.

first 6 years
64-17 for a .790 winning %

In his last 3.5 years 2020 is 1/2 year
26-19
.578 winning percent


So yea he’s really slipping. He’s a good coach but with the offensive game changing so much he hasn’t evolved and that’s why you see his program slipping
 
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I have faith that DW will hire a good coach. But the truth is this is a hard job. Dysfunctional program, players jumping ship, NCAA looming, toxic fan base.

We do have some things going for us. It is possible for a coach to come and turn us around and win an NC here. Along with the top of the program seemingly coming together under Boyd, Donde, and White.

But we're gonna have go pay for it. If we do land a coach that's a "whale" I suspect it'll be something ridiculous like 7 years 8mil per or more. And even for someone who isn't our top option it's gonna be expensive.

Toxic fan base? You serious Clark?

Eff anyone who thinks that...
 
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