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If Heupel can deliver explosive offense, and that is a big IF... **** it.

I won't like the hire but I will go to the games and it will probably be entertaining.

"Kiffin will run the offense and we'll bring in someone to run the defense."

Well this is basically the same exact plan at a cheaper price, with a more stable and trustworthy coach.

I'm bummed I let myself fall for the ole Centurion card trick. But I'll get over it.

Heupal + sanctions is still better than Jeremy Pruitt. **** it. I can deal. But obviously, it ain't over till it's over.
 
If he was next on the list maybe.
My personal opinion JH was a fallback option. We didn't get interest from a few big time hires. Went to second layer with Franklin showing some interest, Elliot went through the motions but I don't think he was really interested. That second tier ultimately didn't pan out, so he immediately went to his fallback before the search became publicly embarrassing. And here we are.

Those wanting to torpedo this hire should entertain the idea that the list doesn't get any better from here out, in fact it gets progressively worse.
 
Great post about Heupel’s record on VQ:

2018- 12-1
-Gave LSU all they wanted in NY6 game. Lost 40-32 back when LSU had a sick defense.
-Also lost star QB, Milton McKenzie, last regular season game. Still won conference championship over a really good Memphis team.
-Destroyed Pitt by 5 TDs.
-I don't care what level or talent you have if you go 12-1 against really good conference competition you can coach. That doesn't just happen.

2019- had to play a freshman with no McKenzie and he ate.... went 10-3.
-Beat Stanford by 3 TDs
-Lost to Pitt by 1 @ Pitt who had a stacked NFL player loaded defense and still dropped 34 points losing by 1.
-Lost to a really good Cincy team @ Cincy by a FG
-Lost @ Tulsa by a FG.
-Destroyed Marshall in bowl game by 4 TDs.

Again a freshman QB and averaged 43.3 PPG.

2020- 6-4

-Posters ITT telling me they had around 10 players opt out
-Destroyed Georgia Tech 49-21
-Lost to a really good Tulsa team by a TD. Tulsa lost to Ok State by 9, Miss State by 2 and Cincy by 3.
-Lost to Memphis by 1 point
-Lost to Cincy by 3 who turned out to be a Top 10 team in the country. Scored 33 on that Luke Fickell defense.
-Lost bowl game to a buzzsaw BYU team with a QB who is about to go Top 5.

Averaged 41 PPG.

Can we quit with the garbage that this guy isn't an offensive stud or coach? They play in a really really good conference that is very competitive top to bottom. He lost 3 games by a possession this past year.

If he is the guy we need to give him a blank check for his DC and defensive staff. If I am Heupel I hand the keys to Steele and let him get Garner and T Will and I handle the offense.

The man can fall out of bed and score points just like he did at Missouri when he absolutely put it on our head 2 straight years. He helped turn Milton McKenzie into a Heisman contender. And scored just as much with a freshman QB when McKenzie was lost on one play.

Hilarious we have "fans" trashing this potential hire because all they did was look at a record in a Covid year with no context. And the other reality is this.... Danny White, who prioritizes leadership and culture, watched this guy daily for 3 years. He absolutely has a grasp of what kind of CEO he would be.
Excellent post.
 
Also, watching the basketVOLS game Sankey did an interview, the SEC really did have all day meetings with ADs.

So there is a good chance that DW had a few candidates come to Knoxville for interviews, JH may just be one of the guys that interviewed today. Short flight from Orlando to Knoxville.
That’s smart and logical.....are you a witch?
 
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Let's think ahead for a minute. DW has a great relationship with Elliott. Let's say we do take Heupel and Elliott goes to UCF.
If Heupel flames out after a few years, but Elliott does well down there this could set up a mini pipeline for Elliott to get the job in Knoxville in a few years.
 
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This feels like Danny White is trying help his former employer out by getting rid of Josh Heupel.

UCF fan(s) were wanting him gone. Oh well, we are on sanctions so we are in "another man's trash is another man's treasure" mode.
 
Raise your hand if you’re going to get behind JH and this team ✋🙋‍♂️
He doesn't bring any baggage. Doesn’t seem like he has an ego that won't allow him to let his staff do their job. I have no reason to not support JH. Admittedly he wasn't on my list. But he also wasn't on my Do Not Want list either. If it's him I'll see what he can do. DW obviously trusts him. Maybe this is the first step of getting the whole administration moving in the same direction.
 
Great post about Heupel’s record on VQ:

2018- 12-1
-Gave LSU all they wanted in NY6 game. Lost 40-32 back when LSU had a sick defense.
-Also lost star QB, Milton McKenzie, last regular season game. Still won conference championship over a really good Memphis team.
-Destroyed Pitt by 5 TDs.
-I don't care what level or talent you have if you go 12-1 against really good conference competition you can coach. That doesn't just happen.

2019- had to play a freshman with no McKenzie and he ate.... went 10-3.
-Beat Stanford by 3 TDs
-Lost to Pitt by 1 @ Pitt who had a stacked NFL player loaded defense and still dropped 34 points losing by 1.
-Lost to a really good Cincy team @ Cincy by a FG
-Lost @ Tulsa by a FG.
-Destroyed Marshall in bowl game by 4 TDs.

Again a freshman QB and averaged 43.3 PPG.

2020- 6-4

-Posters ITT telling me they had around 10 players opt out
-Destroyed Georgia Tech 49-21
-Lost to a really good Tulsa team by a TD. Tulsa lost to Ok State by 9, Miss State by 2 and Cincy by 3.
-Lost to Memphis by 1 point
-Lost to Cincy by 3 who turned out to be a Top 10 team in the country. Scored 33 on that Luke Fickell defense.
-Lost bowl game to a buzzsaw BYU team with a QB who is about to go Top 5.

Averaged 41 PPG.

Can we quit with the garbage that this guy isn't an offensive stud or coach? They play in a really really good conference that is very competitive top to bottom. He lost 3 games by a possession this past year.

If he is the guy we need to give him a blank check for his DC and defensive staff. If I am Heupel I hand the keys to Steele and let him get Garner and T Will and I handle the offense.

The man can fall out of bed and score points just like he did at Missouri when he absolutely put it on our head 2 straight years. He helped turn Milton McKenzie into a Heisman contender. And scored just as much with a freshman QB when McKenzie was lost on one play.

Hilarious we have "fans" trashing this potential hire because all they did was look at a record in a Covid year with no context. And the other reality is this.... Danny White, who prioritizes leadership and culture, watched this guy daily for 3 years. He absolutely has a grasp of what kind of CEO he would be.
He checks every box they said they were looking for. Defense is certainly a concern but we weren't great on Defense with a defensive specialist so may as well try to score. With our talent at qb and wr it should be really fun to watch at the very least.
 
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