Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[GVol1966]

He said DW was an impressive person. Never said that about the coach but whatever

Oh I think you definitely missed some post.

 

[KeepinUpWithJones]

Yeah I’m out on AV honestly. I think he has info but has a bad case of optimism and overpromising

 

[Nashvegas31]

Only thing I can think of is after missing the whale thanks to our own doing he thought about players talk and looked for who could win quickest with current roster. I’m sure players told him they have talented offensive playmakers that need to be put in position to score points while defense likely is bad no matter what with Pruitt defections. So he got the dude that scores a ton of points to make losing the first two yrs look hopeful

 

[eVOLve]

 

[UTK]

All I know is I will never buy Sonny Dykes ever having a serious offer at least

 

[BruinVol]

Triple Dog Dare Ya to put names to your pansy ass claims !

AV and the Haslams

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

To your first point, I think they tried. Both VQ and 247 said Franklin turned down 8 mil a year. They tried.

I think the offensive players willl be very excited. Bailey is about to be developed and turned into a star. Hyatt and others will set the world on fire in this offense. He has to nail the staff hires tho

They did not try. Yes this could be a good hire or a terrible hire. But to say they tried is BS. They went all in on Franklin and Heupel was #2. That’s terrible to have him as two.

 

[volinbama256]

Staff will be the key to whether we get to bowls or not.... get ready because that will be our new ceiling.

So we go with a meh hire, but remember we apparently have a centurion card to spend what we want, so there will be absolutely NO EXCUSE not to pay what is required for a stellar supporting staff, NO EXCUSE.... if we bring in no-names, just burn it.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Thames hints at spending money on big name DC in his article. Hopefully he knows something

 

[kemotoe]

Don't really like the hire, but people need to stop acting like we are some elite program that coaches fawn over. There is a perception of dysfunction that UT gives off and all coaches know this. Add in that to the coming sanctions, and you get this. People act like we can just throw money at a coach and he will come because Tennessee, or that White didn't try to make a home run hire.

Bottom line is UT needs to get back to respectability. We haven't been there in 10 years, and all we can do is get behind the coach and hope he can bring in a good staff.

 

[bpvol]

Hey, if he can develop a quarterback, I’m in!

 

[Volbucky]

Oh I think you definitely missed some post.

Maybe.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Guarantee if Kiffin was HC here next year and we went 5-7 but scored a lot of points there would be endless optimism. “Just needs a defense” - the same stuff everyone says about him now at Ole Miss.

But if the same happens with Heupel it’ll be doom and gloom.

I am disappointed in the hire. Also not surprised. Only UT fans consider this a place a coach would want to work. The outside perception is the reality, not the bubble UT fans live in.

Many TN fans just want to stick their heads in the sand and ignore reality. They think we can just hire anyone we want regardless of the circumstances.

 

[Dudley Smith]

Chris Low on Swain right now.

 

[goooooovols]

It’s done c Lowe...

 

[mthomp88]

No need for AV to show up after that **** he pulled. Last time I listen to him

 

[UTK]

McElroy and Kennel basically said underwhelming hire. UT needed someone experienced in a rebuild, not a young coach that inherited a good team that regressed. Said they hoo he gets it done, he’s a good dude, but they have their doubts...

Then out of disgust I flipped to outlaw country and this was playing. Very fitting!!View attachment 345612

That's what's kind of weird. Wouldn't the Buffalo coach of made more sense if he was going to do a rehire?

 

[give_him 6]

Question for all those opposed to giving Steele the interim until next fall:

Does this hire land us a good amount of the '22 in-state recruits that we've been so worried about?

 

[jakez4ut]

if i'm anyone associated with the UTAD....today is a day i take a break from my phone, lap top, tablets etc.....judging by what i've seen in the 20 minutes iv been awake, clearly not enough people have enough text buddies....lol.

as for me, siap last night....i don't hate this hire. and i think it can work given a few things on the staff etc....

but the thing that gives me the sads, the most, is that we wound up here. our program is in a bad spot, perception wise, we have the NCAA hanging out again, brand new leadership at every level....and i bet on some level Danny White is walking around like "what the hell?"

so even with the money being tossed around, it's a huge gamble to take this job.....it has been for a long time, it still is today, and at some point there has to be a reconciliation with the reality of what this program is vs what it was vs., (most importantly) what we think it is.....

for 15 years we've watched this thing deteriorate in to this....we just don't "go get" anyone now.

anyway, i don't hate the hire.

we'll see how it goes....i would encourage you to chill. after 15 years, it's really not worth it....i will though, be focusing on how this guy and staff can succeed....not wasting time on predicting failure.

GBO.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Not a big excuse but according to Swain they had a lot of opt outs due to Covid

Yep.

 

[eVOLve]

Some of you guys..

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

When it comes to who is taking visits, AV is generally spot on.

When it comes to who will actually commit to us, or anything related to coaching etc.... AV is pretty much clueless.

And I say that as a long long long AV stan.

 

[BigOrangeVols]

LANE TRAIN BABY

HEUPEL IS A SMOKESCREEN

 

[goooooovols]

With all said let’s get behind this hire and hope for the best...

 

[drylo]

He got worst in non Covid years also. UCF is a much worst team than they were when he took over. Other programs have passed them.

iF hEuPeL iS sO gOoD, wHy DiDn’T hE iMpRoVe UpOn UCF’s 13-0 sEaSoN?