Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Devo182]

Like I said earlier, if we’re gonna go down this path, let’s do away with it all and go to Club sports like Europe. I just don’t like how this will end up and everyone will be like “how did this happen”?

So you're saying NFL teams have lower level "club" teams? I imagine it won't happen for 2 reasons.

1) Already tons of money and fandom in college sports. Way too many college fans that would never want this to happen, nor would the universities, who are the big money players in this arena.

2) No way NFL would ever want it. They already have a free developmental league going at no cost.

 

[drvenner]

Graduate from Basic tomorrow.

Awesome!! Congrats, Brother!

 

[UTMVol76]

I am not that old. But the original post was about free speech. People confuse that as you only have free speech against governmental action. Equal protection under the law is the same.

A major issue we are faced with today is that the Government has "3rd Partied" out some of their tasks to large corporations, in particular Big Tech, and they then hide behind the "It's Private Business, Free Speech doesn't apply". My counterargument is that the Corporation wouldn't have it's massive size and standing if it weren't the governments regulation, power, and exemptions which allowed that Private Business to attain the status it today holds.

 

[drvenner]

What branch?

The best branch

 

[UTMVol76]

So you're saying NFL teams have lower level "club" teams? I imagine it won't happen for 2 reasons.

1) Already tons of money and fandom in college sports. Way too many college fans that would never want this to happen, nor would the universities, who are the big money players in this arena.

2) No way NFL would ever want it. They already have a free developmental league going at no cost.

I'm not suggesting we ask them. If we're going to ruin college football, I'd rather be proactive and abolish this future state altogether. Radical, but so it's what's happened.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

You guys are confused about “the constitution.” The Constitution is involving government action. Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequences. Private employers are not the government. Also, a “redistribution of wealth” doesn’t really violate the Constitution. Taxes, welfare, food stamps, aren’t constitutional issues.

This is both correct and incorrect. It is true that the Bill of Rights, and all civil liberties, describe protections you have from governmental power rather than private power. But taxes, welfare, and food stamps are constitutional issues insofar as the ability to pass them in the first place must be based on constitutional authority.

 

[engineerVOL]

Are you in smyrna

I am.

 

[UTMVol76]

I am.

Home to Man Hands

 

[Glitch]

Stripper at the Mouse's Ear. Sure you never heard of her? She seems to know you....

Is she the quadraplegic with the lazy eye and a pretty bad case of mange? Nope. Never heard of her.

 

[VolGee4]

A major issue we are faced with today is that the Government has "3rd Partied" out some of their tasks to large corporations, in particular Big Tech, and they then hide behind the "It's Private Business, Free Speech doesn't apply". My counterargument is that the Corporation wouldn't have it's massive size and standing if it weren't the governments regulation, power, and exemptions which allowed that Private Business to attain the status it today holds.

I’ve never had Facebook or Twitter. I don’t really concern myself a whole lot with it. I can say that I want the government to stay out of most business, because they don’t do it well.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Wow, I haven't kept up. Did not know Tee was WR coach for Ravens.

 

[volbeast33]

Guys...... a close family member is going to be involved with the football program.... I may be gaining insider status this summer. LOL

 

[Weezer]

Is she the quadraplegic with the lazy eye and a pretty bad case of mange? Nope. Never heard of her.

That must make for interesting lap dances...

 

[VolGee4]

This is both correct and incorrect. It is true that the Bill of Rights, and all civil liberties, describe protections you have from governmental power rather than private power. But taxes, welfare, and food stamps are constitutional issues insofar as the ability to pass them in the first place must be based on constitutional authority.

Well, of course. When I said “constitutional issues,” my inference was that they haven’t been ruled to be in violation of it. Poor phrasing on my part.

 

[drvenner]

Thanks. You’re always so thoughtful and encouraging.

Yes, things are going great. Had a checkup and lab work before we left on our trip west (now in NM) and my PSA is still excellent. I feel very blessed.

Awesome news!!

 

[UTMVol76]

I’ve never had Facebook or Twitter. I don’t really concern myself a whole lot with it. I can say that I want the government to stay out of most business, because they don’t do it well.

Agree 100%, however our crony capitalism system (I'm not against free market enterprise capitalism FYI, don't want to confuse) has really bastardized things to where its impossible to see where public ends and private begins.

Highly recommend the writings of Joel Salatin to you guys. In particular the epic "Everything I want to do is Illegal"

 

[engineerVOL]

Home to Man Hands

 

[VOLINVONORE]

This is both correct and incorrect. It is true that the Bill of Rights, and all civil liberties, describe protections you have from governmental power rather than private power. But taxes, welfare, and food stamps are constitutional issues insofar as the ability to pass them in the first place must be based on constitutional authority.

True and not true. An la can be passed and signed by the President. However, any law can be challenged in court and can be upheld or stricken form the books by the Supreme Court.

 

[rekinhavoc]

The best branch

Navy it is .

 

[UTMVol76]

True and not true. An la can be passed and signed by the President. However, any law can be challenged in court and can be upheld or stricken form the books by the Supreme Court.

Basic difference between Law and Edict (in legal definition)

 

[ACvol3]

100%. Many were talking about leaving after the season. It wasn't a secret in the locker room.

Where did you get that?

 

[Devo182]

The school isn't giving them money, this is earned income for them. Like of they worked a summer job, the school can't take that money just because they're on scholarship.

That's what I don't get.

Imagine someone is just the best dang musician and gets a full scholarship to UT and is well known locally for their performances with the UT symphony orchestra. Then in the Summers they get paid to play with the Knoxville orchestra. What right does UT have to take part of that individual's outside earnings, hold it for 4 years, etc?

I don't get the precedence or basis for this, but maybe I'm missing something. Some have argued Title 9 is precedence, but that seems different in so many ways.

Not that UGA is doing it anyway. But I do believe the coaches in GA wanted that option in case of team dysfunction over it. Also, once a federal version is passed, it will overrule all these state laws anyway that will become moot. And that's what we need - 1 uniform rule for all to play by.

 

[ACvol3]

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[ACvol3]

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