Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[scvolfan7]

It's really not close, and it's mostly due to style of play.

I think Heupel needs to slow the offense down a bit. Play a little ball control and protect our defense some

 

[Glitch]

This is funny. Still not sure what Kiffin has done to create such a legend. lol

Coeds

 

[Catbone]

Exactly. Kiffin won 11 games in 2019. And still lost to Heupel 48-14.

Yes mostly with Frost's roster but true

 

[Glitch]

Finished season 2 of The Sinner and now believe in time travel.

We just stumbled upon this show and started watching last night. Episode 1 was intense.

 

[Glitch]

This is almost incomprehensible. If you're going to come on a forum to make an ass of yourself for a decade, at least learn how to stop making run on sentences/extreme spelling mistakes like a 3rd grader

He is to busy sweeping up hair and taking out the trash at camps to finish his Hooked on Phonics lessons.

 

[Ace]

I think Heupel needs to slow the offense down a bit. Play a little ball control and protect our defense some

I want Heupel to run his offense and score. Team with most points wins. We are adding defensive players to add depth. Let’s get an attacking defense and get turnovers. I do not want Pruitt’s protect the defense offense that still can’t stop anyone. Fast and Furious on offense. Put pressure on other teams to score. I am tired of Tennessee playing passive.

 

[Kingston Vol]

One coaches for Nick Saban and one coached for Barry Odom...... did you see how he changed the Missouri offense from one of the worst in league history to one of the best with some of the leagues worse personnel.

Yes, one was trusted by the best coach in the history of the sport to revolutionize his offense. The other had one good year at Missouri.

I think Heupel needs to slow the offense down a bit. Play a little ball control and protect our defense some

Totally agree. He is a very good offensive mind. There is no doubt about it. He is great at working with QBs. If he would slow down his offense, it would be more sustainable from week to week. Kiffin and Lebby are good examples. They score a ton of points but have decided to slow down a bit.

 

[rocktopper16]

Pruitt didn’t get fired for his win/loss record.

When you treat Staff & school personal the way he did you’re bound to be let go. He wasn’t successful enough to do that. JP no doubt has a great football mind but he has no clue on how to run a staff. De1 can say what he wants, most of the time he has been right but with Pruitt he’s way off.

We should have headed the warning from Coach YAC.

 

[rocktopper16]

Yes, one was trusted by the best coach in the history of the sport to revolutionize his offense. The other had one good year at Missouri.



Totally agree. He is a very good offensive mind. There is no doubt about it. He is great at working with QBs. If he would slow down his offense, it would be more sustainable from week to week. Kiffin and Lebby are good examples. They score a ton of points but have decided to slow down a bit.

If we can have Bailey slinging it like Lock did we will be in good hands. Our offense talent now trumps that Missouri team.

 

[scvolfan7]

I want Heupel to run his offense and score. Team with most points wins. We are adding defensive players to add depth. Let’s get an attacking defense and get turnovers. I do not want Pruitt’s protect the defense offense that still can’t stop anyone. Fast and Furious on offense. Put pressure on other teams to score. I am tired of Tennessee playing passive.

The reason Heupel gets in trouble in one score games is because he goes too fast, goes three and out really fast, then puts an exhausted defense back on the defense. I call it the panic attack offense.

Obviously I don’t want it to be like Pruitt’s offense and it won’t be. Just doesn’t need to go so fast that it takes you out of games because you keep giving the ball back

 

[butchna]

I think Heupel needs to slow the offense down a bit. Play a little ball control and protect our defense some

3 and out over and over again “controlling the clock” for 2 minutes a shot practically armor plated last season’s defense.

 

[scvolfan7]

3 and out over and over again “controlling the clock” for 2 minutes a shot practically armor plated last season’s defense.

When Heup’s offense isn’t clicking they give it back even faster

 

[Kingston Vol]

Pruitt didn’t get fired for his win/loss record.

When you treat Staff & school personal the way he did you’re bound to be let go. He wasn’t successful enough to do that. JP no doubt has a great football mind but he has no clue on how to run a staff. De1 can say what he wants, most of the time he has been right but with Pruitt he’s way off.

We should have headed the warning from Coach YAC.

Agreed. 3-7 in a COVID year was survivable if things behind the scenes weren't so bad.

I was told things were "toxic" very early last year. And while some may discredit the small bits of info I bring, I think as bad as things were last year from a morale perspective, it is totally the opposite this year. Heupel has done a great job in this area - I just don't think we have enough talent to make a difference.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

We’ll see what happens with Heup. Some on here seemingly want him to fail.

I don’t know how good he’ll be. But I do know that he can coach offense and develop QB’s. And I know Rodney Garner can recruit, coach, and develop a DL.

You can win a lot of games with great play at QB and DL

 

[UTMVol76]

Yes mostly with Frost's roster but true

That’s just digging for a backhanded insult. A review of his recruiting rankings vs Frost’s years disproves that he was only playing with Frost’s roster. Also, winning games and putting up yards and points with a freshman after your AA QB goes down and having multiple players drafted both show that regardless of who’s talent it is, they are able to develop it in the field.

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

I think Heupel needs to slow the offense down a bit. Play a little ball control and protect our defense some

Nope. Just score points, baby.

 

[scvolfan7]

Nope. Just score points, baby.

Duh. If you’re going 3 and out in under a min over and over again you’re gonna get blown out though. His offenses get in ruts where they do that

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

Never understood the IPA hype. Also not a beer guy but I got turned on to some German wheat beers while in Munich. Damn those are smooth. 10/10 recommend.

Not a fan of IPAs either. Really enjoy the German wheat beers. Also love stouts, porters, ales (aside from IPAs), and sours.

 

[Christian Lowe]

We’ll see what happens with Heup. Some on here seemingly want him to fail.

I don’t know how good he’ll be. But I do know that he can coach offense and develop QB’s. And I know Rodney Garner can recruit, coach, and develop a DL.

You can win a lot of games with great play at QB and DL

i don't, as apathetic as i am about football now.. Even I realize that Tony isn't going to stick around if football doesn't make enough money to give him the upgrades he wants. In all reality he might be gone after this season regardless, we're just too far behind what LSU or Texas A&M could give him. But a man can dream

 

[VolunteerVandiver]

Duh. If you’re going 3 and out in under a min over and over again you’re gonna get blown out though. His offenses get in ruts where they do that

Lol what? Every offense will go 3 and out sometimes. His offense is much more run heavy than people think; plus it produces points. Our offense last year ONLY went 3 & out, which demoralized the defense.

Offense will not be the problem next year.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

We’ll see what happens with Heup. Some on here seemingly want him to fail.

I don’t know how good he’ll be. But I do know that he can coach offense and develop QB’s. And I know Rodney Garner can recruit, coach, and develop a DL.

You can win a lot of games with great play at QB and DL

I feel confident enough to say that in a few years - Tennessee fans will have to worry about losing Heupel to an NFL job.

I think he will do that well here.

 

[volbeast33]

Yes, one was trusted by the best coach in the history of the sport to revolutionize his offense. The other had one good year at Missouri.



Totally agree. He is a very good offensive mind. There is no doubt about it. He is great at working with QBs. If he would slow down his offense, it would be more sustainable from week to week. Kiffin and Lebby are good examples. They score a ton of points but have decided to slow down a bit.

That would be two good seasons for hype..... improved 18 ppg his first season and 6 more ppg in year 2 while kiffin’s first offense at Alabama scored 2 ppg less than the previous season..... basically all you have said for kiffin is being hired by saban.

 

[Brick_By_Brick]

i don't, as apathetic as i am about football now.. Even I realize that Tony isn't going to stick around if football doesn't make enough money to give him the upgrades he wants. In all reality he might be gone after this season regardless, we're just too far behind what LSU or Texas A&M could give him. But a man can dream

Just LOL.

For all the laughs this forum provides, I still can't believe it's free.

 

[scvolfan7]

Lol what? Every offense will go 3 and out sometimes. His offense is much more run heavy than people think; plus it produces points. Our offense last year ONLY went 3 & out, which demoralized the defense.

Offense will not be the problem next year.

I’m aware how run heavy it is. I’ve been going back and watching UCF games when I have free time. Just bringing up some concerns I have about it.

His offense will go three and out over and over on drives that are less than a minute and it lets the other team get back in the game quickly.

I think his offense could be the best in the country specifically because they run so well. Just needs to use that to his advantage and play some more ball control using that great run game.

 

[butchna]

The reason Heupel gets in trouble in one score games is because he goes too fast, goes three and out really fast, then puts an exhausted defense back on the defense. I call it the panic attack offense.

Obviously I don’t want it to be like Pruitt’s offense and it won’t be. Just doesn’t need to go so fast that it takes you out of games because you keep giving the ball back

Unless he actually converts some 1st downs along the way. Noticed that happening in his offense. The opposite confused dawdling approach that went three and out REALLY SLOW OVER AND OVER THROUGHOUT THE GAME? I call it the Crap We’ve Been Running Offense.


That being said, I can agree that mixing in a slower pace from time to time during games could function as a de facto off speed pitch. I always believed that tactic would have aided Peyton Manning. But not an entire game’s worth.