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Alright after going through this expected expansion it might not be a totally awful thing for Tennessee from this standpoint. Gumps would effectively be locked out of Texas recruiting due to the SEC affiliated Longhorns and Oklahoma not to mention Aggies. They’ll still get some guys but most that would turn Texas and Oklahoma down in the past because weaker Conference competition that wouldn’t be an issue anymore obviously. That would make the Gumps focus on Florida more so which wouldn’t make up for the potential losses of their Texas recruiting… Effectively kicking them down a notch. With that being said all is not lost and we’ll be elite again one day.. Go Vols!
 
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Devo182 said:
Good god Birmingham is going to ruin CFB 10 times over. Every other conference will vanish into the G5. Absolutely terrible for a "national" game.

If anything, the SEC needs to be stepped on. At what point does this reach being an antitrust issue? @VolGee4 Break Sankey and his money grubbing minions up. This is out of control.
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Do not want. Super conferences look good on paper but it's diversity, regionality, and the uniqueness of each environment/school culture that makes college football special. Sucking all these schools into a super conference does not help things. They're killing the goose that lays the golden egg and they don't even realize it.
 
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HB5forHeisman said:
If we go to the national championship and beat, let’s say, Oklahoma….that trophy you hoist isn’t going to have an asterisk on it.
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Gotta make the playoffs first and the second team in the ACC doesn’t make it…unlike the third or fourth team in the SEC. Oklahoma makes the playoffs because they made the smart choice of playing amongst the best…as opposed to our dumb, cowardly loser mentality decision.
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
When I started really caring about Tennessee football circa 2007 it was totally conceivable that we'd catch and surpass Bama in head-to-head wins in my lifetime and now that is never going to happen. We've been dragged up and down the field by a supposed rival and been helpless to do anything about it, and now we're going to admit two more programs that are way out of our league so we can get smacked around by all new opponents. Oh, goody!
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The question is - why are our universities going along with it? We're not the only ones in this position and it's not like Sankey can just add members at will. This stuff is voted on. It only takes 4 to stop it but it doesn't look like anyone other than TAMU and maybe Mizzou want to. But we're not the only ones on shaky ground that don't need opponents like this added to our schedule. Yet is seems that all the other schools are on board. Why?
 
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butchna said:
Gotta make the playoffs first and the second team in the ACC doesn’t make it…unlike the third or fourth team in the SEC. Oklahoma makes the playoffs because they made the smart choice of playing amongst the best…as opposed to our dumb, cowardly loser mentality decision.
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Ok, let’s say we stay in the SEC. We move forward with this plan and Heupel turns this program around. By the time Texas and OU come into play we’re an 8 or 9-win team annually. We have a big time team that we’re anticipating coming into 2026 where we return an elite QB and whatnot. We go through a gauntlet of a schedule but come out alive, won a lot of close, physical games. We face Clemson, or Ohio State, or some team like that in the natty. They have an easy schedule and cakewalk to their spot in the natty. They smoke us, out physical us, and you can tell we’re just worn out from the battles we’ve fought all season. You’re telling me that’s what you want rather than being on the opposite side?
 
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IF we're dead set on being a 20 team conference, I'd rather say no to Texas and Oklahoma, ditch TAMU, Arkansas, and Mizzou, then add FSU, Clemson, North Carolina, NC State, UVA, VA Tech, Louisville, Miami, and GA Tech. And I'd invite Duke to join in basketball only. Or even in every sport but football. So those nine teams plus UT, UGA, USC jr, UK, Vandy, Bama, Aub, Ole Miss, Miss St., LSU, and UF. Hell, Maybe get Vandy to give up football if we can think of another team good at football that fits the geographical footprint. But that would take us back to actually being the Southeastern Conference.

But it'll never happen like that because of money. But if we did that, and the Northeast, Northwest, and Southwest followed suit....That would help some with the parity issue.
 
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UTProf said:
The question is - why are our universities going along with it? We're not the only ones in this position and it's not like Sankey can just add members at will. This stuff is voted on. It only takes 4 to stop it but it doesn't look like anyone other than TAMU and maybe Mizzou want to. But we're not the only ones on shaky ground that don't need opponents like this added to our schedule. Yet is seems that all the other schools are on board. Why?
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Dudley Smith said:
My God, can they really be that stupid?



TCU, Baylor, and Tech all go back to the SWC days, but Texas doesn’t really consider them rivals. Moving to the SEC picking back up with A&M and Arkansas really gets the band back together.
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When it comes to Texas? Stupid knows no bounds with those two. I really don't want the problems their in-fighting is going to bring. They are the worst of AU-UA except they have oil money to finance their redneck hate of one another and state politicians involved at every level.
 
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HB5forHeisman said:
Ok, let’s say we stay in the SEC. We move forward with this plan and Heupel turns this program around. By the time Texas and OU come into play we’re an 8 or 9-win team annually. We have a big time team that we’re anticipating coming into 2026 where we return an elite QB and whatnot. We go through a gauntlet of a schedule but come out alive, won a lot of close, physical games. We face Clemson, or Ohio State, or some team like that in the natty. They have an easy schedule and cakewalk to their spot in the natty. They smoke us, out physical us, and you can tell we’re just worn out from the battles we’ve fought all season. You’re telling me that’s what you want rather than being on the opposite side?
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If we’re better than them? We’ll beat them. Your mentality mimics the second guessers in hordes who wailed over Kramer’s decision to institute a conference championship game. “No SEC team will ever win a NC going through that gauntlet!” How’d that work out? Iron sharpens iron. Clemson and Ohio State lost to the team that played better conference competition. Because they’re better?
 
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butchna said:
If we’re better than them? We’ll beat them. Your mentality mimics the second guessers in hordes who wailed over Kramer’s decision to institute a conference championship game. “No SEC team will ever win a NC going through that gauntlet!” How’d that work out? Iron sharpens iron. Clemson and Ohio State lost to the team that played better conference competition. Because they’re better?
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If you get beaten up enough and play a team who’s had a relatively easy schedule, chances are they’re gonna be fresh and take advantage of that. That’s what I’m saying. Better teams don’t always win. OSU, Clemson, etc would have the advantage when it’s time to play because we’re busy beating up each other
 
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HB5forHeisman said:
If you get beaten up enough and play a team who’s had a relatively easy schedule, chances are they’re gonna be fresh and take advantage of that. That’s what I’m saying. Better teams don’t always win. OSU, Clemson, etc would have the advantage when it’s time to play because we’re busy beating up each other
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If you’re truly better, you’ll beat em. If you need protection from competition, it’ll show and you’ll lose. Clemson beat Bama because they were the better team. When Kelly Bryant was the quarterback, their rested and non-tested azzes got run. Better teams always win in college football…you’re thinking March Madness.
 
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