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Smokeytom said:
NBC just showed how two high jumpers were in a race for gold, but both missed their final jumps. Official comes over and says they will have a jump off. One of the jumpers asks if they can both have gold, the other jumper ecstatically high fives him, overcome with emotion. They are sharing the gold. NBC presenting it as an amazing moment of humanity. My first thought? What ****ing losers! You’re competitors. Neither one of you are injured. A jump off for Olympic gold makes for the biggest moment of any jumper’s career! How do you turn that down?!? What a phony gold medal. Ridiculous!
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I can’t believe I just read that… does Upward run the olympics now? That is ridiculous
 
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Smokeytom said:
NBC just showed how two high jumpers were in a race for gold, but both missed their final jumps. Official comes over and says they will have a jump off. One of the jumpers asks if they can both have gold, the other jumper ecstatically high fives him, overcome with emotion. They are sharing the gold. NBC presenting it as an amazing moment of humanity. My first thought? What ****ing losers! You’re competitors. Neither one of you are injured. A jump off for Olympic gold makes for the biggest moment of any jumper’s career! How do you turn that down?!? What a phony gold medal. Ridiculous!
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It’s a weird situation for sure. They both topped out at at the same height (the Olympic record mark)

What even is a jump-off? To see who has more stamina to keep making the same height over and over? I’m gonna have to Google it

Edit: Found it: “A jump-off can occur when there is a tie, as was the case on Sunday night. It results in the bar being lowered to the previous height both jumpers cleared. Each athlete gets one jump, and the bar is alternately lowered and raised to a different height each time until the first person fails to clear the bar.”
 
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I’d actually like to rant about tiebreakers for a second.

I think shootouts in sports like soccer or hockey are terrible. It feels like such an arbitrary way to finish the game.

Imagine if in Baseball they had a home run derby at the end to determine the winner. It’d be thought of as totally ridiculous.

I’ve long thought CFB has the best tiebreaker of any major sport. You’re playing the same game, but they just shorten the field.
 
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omghulkhands said:
It’s a weird situation for sure. They both topped out at at the same height (the Olympic record mark)

What even is a jump-off? To see who has more stamina to keep making the same height over and over? I’m gonna have to Google it

Edit: Found it: “A jump-off can occur when there is a tie, as was the case on Sunday night. It results in the bar being lowered to the previous height both jumpers cleared. Each athlete gets one jump, and the bar is alternately lowered and raised to a different height each time until the first person fails to clear the bar.”
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The second the other dude asked, “Can we just share the gold?” I would’ve immediately said “hell no! We’re jumping!” Already have the mental edge at that point.
 
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omghulkhands said:
I’d actually like to rant about tiebreakers for a second.

I think shootouts in sports like soccer or hockey are terrible. It feels like such an arbitrary way to finish the game.

Imagine if in Baseball they had a home run derby at the end to determine the winner. It’d be thought of as totally ridiculous.

I’ve long thought CFB has the best tiebreaker of any major sport. You’re playing the same game, but they just shorten the field.
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Hockey only does shootouts in the regular season and nobody wants to even imagine a potential 6+hr soccer game dragging on scoreless. I like shootouts personally. I do think they should bring back the Golden Goal in extra time Soccer though.
 
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omghulkhands said:
It’s a weird situation for sure. They both topped out at at the same height (the Olympic record mark)

What even is a jump-off? To see who has more stamina to keep making the same height over and over? I’m gonna have to Google it

Edit: Found it: “A jump-off can occur when there is a tie, as was the case on Sunday night. It results in the bar being lowered to the previous height both jumpers cleared. Each athlete gets one jump, and the bar is alternately lowered and raised to a different height each time until the first person fails to clear the bar.”
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Don’t overthink it bro. A jump off is exactly what it sounds like. They whimp’d out.
 
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Smokeytom said:
Hockey only does shootouts in the regular season and nobody wants to even imagine a potential 6+hr soccer game dragging on scoreless. I like shootouts personally. I do think they should bring back the Golden Goal in extra time Soccer though.
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I wish there was a way for them to shorten the field in soccer for an extra period. It’d be interesting to see.
 
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omghulkhands said:
I’d actually like to rant about tiebreakers for a second.

I think shootouts in sports like soccer or hockey are terrible. It feels like such an arbitrary way to finish the game.

Imagine if in Baseball they had a home run derby at the end to determine the winner. It’d be thought of as totally ridiculous.

I’ve long thought CFB has the best tiebreaker of any major sport. You’re playing the same game, but they just shorten the field.
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Mostly agree. I do think it's pretty much the best, though the brand new rules make it a bit more like soccer, in a way. It lets them play it out...to a degree...but then it becomes ONLY 2 pt plays by OT3.

Teams will be required to run a 2-point conversion play after a touchdown when a game reaches a second overtime period. Previously, a 2-point attempt was required after the third overtime period.

Also, if the game reaches a third overtime, teams will run alternating 2-point plays, instead of starting another drive at the opponent’s 25-yard line. This is a change from the previous rule, which started to use 2-point plays in the fifth overtime period.
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Though even the 25-yard overtimes do negatively affect teams that thrive on open space, verticality, big shots. Teams that can just muscle it in or pack it in on defense are at an advantage. The NFL system has improved its process a bit. Hated the deathmatch style, put wayyy too much emphasis on who won a freakin coin flip.

I will say soccer gives teams every reasonable chance to win before they both keel over and pass out from exhaustion. Akin to the new CFB rules. They have an extra 30 mins of OT. So they're basically extending the game another 1/3. Would be like if the NBA included a whopping 16 minute overtime, rather than 5. Or CFB having a whole separate 20 minute period. It's plenty imo and any more is just exhausting for all and less interesting (though I agree a better reflection of the sport regardless).

But yeah I hate how some games have to end up in penalty kicks or, now, alternating 2 pt conversion attempts. Don't love any styles, but a necessary evil I suppose.
 
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omghulkhands said:
I’d actually like to rant about tiebreakers for a second.

I think shootouts in sports like soccer or hockey are terrible. It feels like such an arbitrary way to finish the game.

Imagine if in Baseball they had a home run derby at the end to determine the winner. It’d be thought of as totally ridiculous.

I’ve long thought CFB has the best tiebreaker of any major sport. You’re playing the same game, but they just shorten the field.
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Honestly a swing off HR derby, is a better idea than the mickey mouse runner on second BS
 
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Smokeytom said:
Hockey only does shootouts in the regular season and nobody wants to even imagine a potential 6+hr soccer game dragging on scoreless. I like shootouts personally. I do think they should bring back the Golden Goal in extra time Soccer though.
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Apparently the golden goal made things worse, as neither side wanted to risk putting anyone forward.
 
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Regular seasons ties never chapped my ass. It feels fine and normal as a result to me, personally.

It only sucks when teams are in a late season situation where one team needs a win and the other only needs a tie, and you get weird turtle defense schemes.
 
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