Recruiting Forum Football Talk III

[Glitch]

I’d take it. Sure is better than 3-7 or 4-8…

UK ain't going 10-2. /conversation

 

[RiotVol]

But again, seed must be planted first

heyooooo!!!

 

[jave36]

I wanted several times to kick Butch’s a$$. Kid looked like a deer in headlights the whole game. It was cringe worthy.

Ya I wonder how much of his failure was bad coaching. I pretty much give every Butch Era kid a pass. I don't think a single player got better under him. It was crazy how many kids best season was their freshman season with Butch.

 

[jave36]

Doug Mathews discussing the scrimmages he attended:

We will almost always run a press man coverage. Burrell and Taylor are the two starters and that isn’t in debate. Cornerback should be a strength. Theo Jackson and Deneiko Slaughter both look good in the nickel.

The transfer Mohan at LB is solid in coverage and will be brought in for passing downs. Very fast.

Trashing how bad we were aligned on defense last year. Said it was much better on the first two scrimmages.

Defensive line has been “good and close to very good” against the run in the scrimmages. Said they are much more physical and “so much better fundamentally.” A lot of bodies to rotate that can play in this league.

Defense outplayed the offense. Rain played a big part of that. Impressed with Tim Banks. Thinks we will make a huge improvement in quality of play in the defense.

Really emphasizing how poorly we were coached last season.

Will run a ton of different sets on offense. More to come after the break....

Thanks for posting this. Matthews is one of the best in the media for actual football knowledge, so I love these recaps of his show.

 

[bluegrasser]

Doug Mathews discussing the scrimmages he attended:

The transfer Mohan at LB is solid in coverage and will be brought in for passing downs. Very fast.

Defensive line has been “good and close to very good” against the run in the scrimmages. Said they are much more physical and “so much better fundamentally.”

Impressed with Tim Banks. Thinks we will make a huge improvement in quality of play in the defense.

Really emphasizing how poorly we were coached last season...

The addition of Garner coaching the D-line can not be emphasized enough. Sounds like Banks will provide solid coaching as well.

The transfers on all three levels of D - line, LB, and backs - promise to be solid contributors.

I think people look at how awful we were last year and just assume it will carry over to this year. This is fundamentally NOT the same defense, with substantial improvements in coaching and personnel. (I hope ).

 

[jave36]

I'm gonna say it... Matthews is rarely right. Doesn't matter what he says.

What? About predictions or his other takes? Maybe he's not a good prognosticator, but his football analysis is amazing in my opinion.

 

[TheTimeIsNow]

Kentucky winning 10 games.... bahahaha

 

[peaygolf]

I just looked it up and UK has only won 10 regular season games twice in their existence. 1950 and 1977. I guess they’re due?

I’d bet $1000 UK doesn’t win 10 regular season games this year.

Fran Curci ain't walking thru the door................

 

[Weezer]

There's always breast milk season.

Gigger's gonna start the world's first breast milk dairy farm.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Friend of mine just posted this on Facebook. Doc Hollidays Tombstone. It’s in Glenwood Springs Colorado about 1 hour west of Vail

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Lived near there when I was a kid.

 

[Catbone]

Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I’m not sure why folks like you follow sports that make you miserable. I say that having been there, if something makes me miserable I have to get away from it at least for a little while. At this point many of us are invested in this coaching change because we hope and pray this is the positive turn and frankly that journey is part of the fun in enjoying eventual success. If this is the positive turnaround, guys like you will never be happy and you’ll just be actively trying to poke holes in it the whole time.

Because we aren't bandwagon fans and can accept reality. It'll just make our (eventual) rise that much sweeter too

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Kentucky schedule has 4 cupcakes. 4 wins.

South Carolina and Vanderbilt. 2 wins

Missouri, Mississippi St., Tennessee… potential wins

Georgia, Florida, LSU 3 losses

Kentucky and Mizzou always seem to have easy schedules.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Lived near there when I was a kid.

You ourght to be at home, lyin' in bed!

What the hell you doin' this for anyway?

was meant for @Cosmo Kramer

 

[beneVOLence]

Because we aren't bandwagon fans and can accept reality. It'll just make our (eventual) rise that much sweeter too

Here we go with the real fan argument. I’m not pessimist, I’m a realist. Blah, blah, blah.

Most people on this site are real fans because they still are here over the last 15 years. Some just are optimistic and other are pessimistic.

 

[Scvol7906]

Update: Wife is home, and resting comfortably. Thanks again for all the prayers.

 

[SweetasSoda]

If y'all can volunteer in any way please do. If not, pray.

Dozens missing and death toll over 10 last I saw in Waverly, TN.

McEwen recieved 17" of rain in under 24hrs yesterday. Dickson, Humphreys, Houston, and Hickman Counties had catastrophic flash flooding.

For reference, the Nashville flood of 2010 had a 24hr record of only 9.25", and only recieved 13.57" in 48hrs. This event shattered it. Nobody was prepared.

Oh my!!! Praying!

 

[drvenner]

No choice.Worley bird got hurt…I think that was the day we never looked back after Dobbs went in…am I right?

Nope. Worley came in after a maybe 3-4 series.

 

[drvenner]

I grew up in Knoxville going to games all the time. I attended UT and look back on that time fondly. I want to win as much as anyone. However, it’s like this place has amnesia. You’re buying into reports from the same writers who have been lying to you for years. It’s like an endless cycle of “Old coach bad, new coach good” echo chamber.

I think Heupel has a chance to be very good here, but I don’t trust the local writers who cover the team. They have a vested interest in keeping up subscriptions, clicks, and false hopes. If they actually try to tell the truth they get RUNNOFT which is what my original comments were about.

There have been many studies on this . Negative news sells much better than positive news. I think our local writers want us to fail, to be honest. Except for the VQ guys, kinda.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

I’m 100% sure UK wins less than 10 games

 

[drvenner]

Yea it was the worst my family has ever seen it. We lost a barn, bush hog, a plow, and all our hay rings. Also the road washed out and is gone in front of our house. I still consider us lucky, our home or lives were in no danger, but a lot were not so lucky.

Hate this happened. Glad no one was hurt. That looks awful.

 

[drvenner]

I’d take it. Sure is better than 3-7 or 4-8…

Pretty much loses all credibility with Kentucky finishing second.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Pretty much loses all credibility with Kentucky finishing second.

Kentucky will surprise a lot of folks.

Honestly, I think they have about same talent level. Prob give their defense the nod. Please dont make me regret this positivity...I think the X factor will be our QB.

 

[drvenner]

A horse walked into a bar, and the bartender said, “Why the long face?” The horse, unable to understand the English language, promptly crapped on the floor and left.

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I am LMAO.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Thanks for posting this. Matthews is one of the best in the media for actual football knowledge, so I love these recaps of his show.

Wait...is he one of the best or hardly ever right? I think we have to take into consideration that the journalists that cover our team have had to deal with years of covering a team that has underperformed. So if we have been disappointed in the final record, the journalists who told us about the athletes on the team are not to blame if those athletes did not do much of anything impressive on a team that managed to make people think KY is now a powerhouse.......then they end up impressing in the NFL.

 

[drvenner]

The national media is usually better on topics like this, but the problem is we’ve been so bad we don’t get the amount of coverage we’re used to.

Just last week our Athletic beat writer compared us to Iowa State (as a program and fanbase) on his way out the door. And plenty of other journalists chimed in to corroborate and substantiate the question/comparison. I think that comparison is nuts! I was irate when I read it. But perception is reality, and how people with no skin in the game are you is usually your reality.

Our local media is a bunch of guys who grew up Tennessee fans. It doesn’t mean they’re always biased in favor of Tennessee, although VolQuest certainly is, and that’s where we get most of our information. They’ve followed these kids through the recruiting process, have gotten to know them, like them, and depend on them for information, and those things have skewed their analysis.

Hyams, Adams, Ferrara, off the top of my head are local media who did not grow up Tennessee fans. Probably plenty more if I thought about it.