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Last year's team wins 6 in a normal year. They won 3 SEC games and they would've beaten the three cupcakes we play this year. That's 6-6.

So we're going to be improved at every position group but can't improve the record? I don't buy it, especially when we think about the offense, we aren't talking about minor improvement. We're about to take a major leap forward on that side of the ball. Injuries could derail that, I'm not denying it. But to say that we're improved at basically every position but will see no improvement in record is something I just don't get.

Toot was good, Grey isn't better than Small/Evans/Wright especially in this offense we won't miss him, Key couldn't get on the field over McDonald or Slaughter and we replaced him with Turnage who is basically the same player but has been in bama's system for 2 years, Wanya was playing TE though I'd like to have him for depth, Bennett wasn't on last year's team, Johnson is mediocre and spent more time in the locker room due to penalties than he did making plays. We upgraded over him with Byron is my bet. Losing these guys did not hurt us with the exception of Henry. We lost Henry and depth.

People talk about what we lost and never talk about what we gained.

I wish we had more depth, but none of those guys you just named = a win.
I think we have under performed so much that the media is afraid to say we will actually perform for once. So they focus on all the reasons why we may not do well. Later they can talk about what a good job CJH has done or simply say it was expected.
 
We were pretty bad due to coaching last year, and we had a terrible record.

Fast forward a year

Not hard to say we are better everywhere on the field and will have a better record than 3-7. No one besides us fans will have the Vols ceiling above 6 wins. Most people aren’t going to say “yeah 8 win ceiling” especially after a coaching change, and 3 wins the previous year. Let’s not forget losing pretty damn good starters/depth, especially at LB last year love them or hate them (Toot, Gray, Morris, Key, Bennet, Johnson, etc)


I totally agree with you for sure but it’s also funny how UK also had a trash record and they are getting treated like they are some powerhouse by SEC media. It weird how they pick their battles.
 
Last year's team wins 6 in a normal year. They won 3 SEC games and they would've beaten the three cupcakes we play this year. That's 6-6.

So we're going to be improved at every position group but can't improve the record? I don't buy it, especially when we think about the offense, we aren't talking about minor improvement. We're about to take a major leap forward on that side of the ball. Injuries could derail that, I'm not denying it. But to say that we're improved at basically every position but will see no improvement in record is something I just don't get.

Toot was good, Grey isn't better than Small/Evans/Wright especially in this offense we won't miss him, Key couldn't get on the field over McDonald or Slaughter and we replaced him with Turnage who is basically the same player but has been in bama's system for 2 years, Wanya was playing TE though I'd like to have him for depth, Bennett wasn't on last year's team, Johnson is mediocre and spent more time in the locker room due to penalties than he did making plays. We upgraded over him with Byron is my bet. Losing these guys did not hurt us with the exception of Henry. We lost Henry and depth.

People talk about what we lost and never talk about what we gained.

I wish we had more depth, but none of those guys you just named = a win.
100% agree, those guys may excel at their new school but the fact of the matter is other than Grey and Henry T they were not good (Henry was horrible in coverage) you can’t convince me the guys we added won’t play at the same or higher level than those guys did last year. Key Lawrence was our biggest loss and he didn’t even play.
 
Last year's team wins 6 in a normal year. They won 3 SEC games and they would've beaten the three cupcakes we play this year. That's 6-6.

So we're going to be improved at every position group but can't improve the record? I don't buy it, especially when we think about the offense, we aren't talking about minor improvement. We're about to take a major leap forward on that side of the ball. Injuries could derail that, I'm not denying it. But to say that we're improved at basically every position but will see no improvement in record is something I just don't get.

Toot was good, Grey isn't better than Small/Evans/Wright especially in this offense we won't miss him, Key couldn't get on the field over McDonald or Slaughter and we replaced him with Turnage who is basically the same player but has been in bama's system for 2 years, Wanya was playing TE though I'd like to have him for depth, Bennett wasn't on last year's team, Johnson is mediocre and spent more time in the locker room due to penalties than he did making plays. We upgraded over him with Byron is my bet. Losing these guys did not hurt us with the exception of Henry. We lost Henry and depth.

People talk about what we lost and never talk about what we gained.

I wish we had more depth, but none of those guys you just named = a win.
I agree with everything you said, however, the overall depth of this team is worse.

Injuries and QB play will be the difference between 5-7 and 8-4, IMO. It could easily fall either way, IMO.
 
You got the VQ crew over there telling us on one hand that literally every position on the team is improved over last year, and then on the other hand saying our ceiling is 6-6. Makes no sense.
I don’t understand the trepidation. We should win all 4 non conference. Losing even to Pitt would be a bad loss. We should beat Vandy as well. That’s 5. That means for 6-6 they would have us losing all we “should” (Bama, UGA, and Florida) and only going 1-4 in toss ups games where we are equally or even more talented (SC, Missouri, Ky, and Ole Miss)

We honestly shouldn’t be lower than 7-5
 
The only thing worth watching Thursday is to see if JH has this team well organized and disciplined.

BG isn’t an opponent to learn anything against. Milton shouldn’t be judged until the Pitt game
I also think we need to see the team execute.

In the past we could not find our way out of a wet paper bag.

We need to see this team execute at a high level against an opponent they should beat. You should look dominant against an inferior opponent. It’s been a while since UT has done that.
 
I agree with everything you said, however, the overall depth of this team is worse.

Injuries and QB play will be the difference between 5-7 and 8-4, IMO. It could easily fall either way, IMO.
Complete agree on depth. Injuries could crater us at certain positions.
 
Oh they got the special crazy lights going at the stadium?? For the Thursday night game in which we will have the stage for perhaps the only time all year? And the next two games are at noon so we won't get to flick the lights???

Oh hell yeah we're gonna light Bowling Green up. Team total over 46.5 or whatever it is. I'm gonna take the first half team total too if I can find it.
 
It’s Not like im predicting 10-2. just don’t tell me that we’re better at every position and are taking a major leap on offense and then tell me our ceiling is 6-6. We’re either improved or we’re not. 6-6 is not improved.
So what you’re saying is…


3 wins + OOC Cupcakes - 2 SEC games + DL coach - Gump = XV-Nulla

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