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You mean what?

We were pretty bad due to coaching last year, and we had a terrible record.

Fast forward a year

Not hard to say we are better everywhere on the field and will have a better record than 3-7. No one besides us fans will have the Vols ceiling above 6 wins. Most people aren’t going to say “yeah 8 win ceiling” especially after a coaching change, and 3 wins the previous year. Let’s not forget losing pretty damn good starters/depth, especially at LB last year love them or hate them (Toot, Gray, Morris, Key, Bennet, Johnson, etc)
 
Good news if true. Buck is plugged in with the old school coaches.
Yeah...but the fact that he has that imbecile that mouths off incessantly on VN on his staff troubles me...I hope Buck doesn't talk about UT to kids and their folks in private like the Barber does..😒
 
We were pretty bad due to coaching last year, and we had a terrible record.

Fast forward a year

Not hard to say we are better everywhere on the field and will have a better record than 3-7. No one besides us fans will have the Vols ceiling above 6 wins. Most people aren’t going to say “yeah 8 win ceiling” especially after a coaching change, and 3 wins the previous year. Let’s not forget losing pretty damn good starters/depth, especially at LB last year love them or hate them (Toot, Gray, Morris, Key, Bennet, Johnson, etc)
Last year's team wins 6 in a normal year. They won 3 SEC games and they would've beaten the three cupcakes we play this year. That's 6-6.

So we're going to be improved at every position group but can't improve the record? I don't buy it, especially when we think about the offense, we aren't talking about minor improvement. We're about to take a major leap forward on that side of the ball. Injuries could derail that, I'm not denying it. But to say that we're improved at basically every position but will see no improvement in record is something I just don't get.

Toot was good, Grey isn't better than Small/Evans/Wright especially in this offense we won't miss him, Key couldn't get on the field over McDonald or Slaughter and we replaced him with Turnage who is basically the same player but has been in bama's system for 2 years, Wanya was playing TE though I'd like to have him for depth, Bennett wasn't on last year's team, Johnson is mediocre and spent more time in the locker room due to penalties than he did making plays. We upgraded over him with Byron is my bet. Losing these guys did not hurt us with the exception of Henry. We lost Henry and depth.

People talk about what we lost and never talk about what we gained.

I wish we had more depth, but none of those guys you just named = a win.
 
Last year's team wins 6 in a normal year. They won 3 SEC games and they would've beaten the three cupcakes we play this year. That's 6-6.

So we're going to be improved at every position group but can't improve the record? I don't buy it, especially when we think about the offense, we aren't talking about minor improvement. We're about to take a major leap forward on that side of the ball. Injuries could derail that, I'm not denying it. But to say that we're improved at basically every position but will see no improvement in record is something I just don't get.

Toot was good, Grey isn't better than Small/Evans/Wright especially in this offense we won't miss him, Key couldn't get on the field over McDonald or Slaughter and we replaced him with Turnage who is basically the same player but has been in bama's system for 2 years, Wanya was playing TE though I'd like to have him for depth, Bennett wasn't on last year's team, Johnson is mediocre and spent more time in the locker room due to penalties than he did making plays. We upgraded over him with Byron is my bet. Losing these guys did not hurt us with the exception of Henry. We lost Henry and depth.

People talk about what we lost and never talk about what we gained.

I wish we had more depth, but none of those guys you just named = a win.

I’m just telling you why VQ and others might say that. Who knows? Maybe because they value games played over other things.

I wasn’t saying that’s how I felt. I think our ceiling is 8 wins because I’m a Vols fan and feel the same as you do, but others clearly don’t. More or less to start a convo.
 
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new phone lol I finished mowing and went straight to verizon in Clarksville, TN. They were great. I showed it to them and asked if they did repairs. He said "not on that!" I was in and out in less than an hour. I had just backed it up in icloud so I didn't even lose anything. Old phone was paid for so I just got a new one.
 
I’m just telling you why VQ and others might say that. Who knows? Maybe because they value games played over other things.

I wasn’t saying that’s how I felt. I think our ceiling is 8 wins because I’m a Vols fan and feel the same as you do, but others clearly don’t. More or less to start a convo.
I get it. I just think the VQ guys are hedging. I'm only trying to point out that on one hand they say we're improved everywhere, but that it won't show up in the record. That just doesn't make sense to me. But anyway, we'll find out. I'll be at 15-0 I'm sure after we roll BG on Thursday
 
Hate to hear that McGill, my grandfather was born in the late 1800’s and he lived through the 1918 flu epidemic. He said the second wave was worse than the first. Seems to be the same with Covid. I’m over it. Prayers for you and that family
Thanks...the guy was my stepmothers nephew. I was a lot closer to his older brothers, I worked with them a long time ago, but I have known him since birth, he was a really good, hard working man that just got caught up in the ridiculous politicizing of this stupid epidemic.
 
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