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SLICKYINC said:
NFL coaches laugh at PFF grades.
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Literally every NFL team is their client lol.

Their grades are certainly a black box to the outside and I get the confusion because their grading aren't just old-school box stats that everyone can see (they lean toward being process-oriented over results-oriented) but their team clients get to see it all. Also partnered with dozens of CFB teams.

Just as example: Carvin could allow a pressure or whiff on a block, but HH escaped a sack on the play by a hair. That doesn't show up on the box stats, but it happened. On the reverse, an OL could block their man for 5 seconds until the QB runs right into his defender for a "sack" that looks bad on paper, but wasn't his fault.

They certainly have their downside and is no way perfect, for instance they can't always know (though can estimate) every player's assignment on every play. But no external service will know that either. But I get the dislike, it's tough to accept something you can't see on paper and feels like a black box.

But it would be closer to if you went back and watched the player, on every play, for the entire game. Did he fill his gap that play? Did he take up 2 blockers? Did he cover his WR throughout the play that led to a coverage sack/throwaway? There's just so much more to football than box stats.
 
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Devo182 said:
Literally every NFL team is their client lol.

Their grades are certainly a black box to the outside and I get the confusion because their grading aren't just old-school box stats that everyone can see (they lean toward being process-oriented over results-oriented) but their team clients get to see it all. Also partnered with dozens of CFB teams.

Just as example: Carvin could allow a pressure or whiff on a block, but HH escaped a sack on the play by a hair. That doesn't show up on the box stats, but it happened. On the reverse, an OL could block their man for 5 seconds until the QB runs right into his defender for a "sack" that looks bad on paper, but wasn't his fault.

They certainly have their downside and is no way perfect, for instance they can't always know (though can estimate) every player's assignment on every play. But no external service will know that either. But I get the dislike, it's tough to accept something you can't see on paper and feels like a black box.

But it would be closer to if you went back and watched the player, on every play, for the entire game. Did he fill his gap that play? Did he take up 2 blockers? Did he cover his WR throughout the play that led to a coverage sack/throwaway? There's just so much more to football than box stats.
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pierce60 said:
Shocked face...again

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Boy...USC fans have to be happy. They sat through all those years of that idjit Helton as HC. They deserve something good again. I hope we're next. Bring back a West Coast Power. Bring back an East Coast Power north of the border. Shoot, give the midwest a power too. Let's go old school.

Let it be done.
 
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Devo182 said:
Boy...USC fans have to be happy. They sat through all those years of that idjit Helton as HC. They deserve something good again. I hope we're next. Bring back a West Coast Power. Bring back an East Coast Power north of the border. Shoot, give the midwest a power too. Let's go old school.

Let it be done.
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I’d like plan B...Tennessee rises to the top. A new power on the west coast. A new power on the east coast. A new power in the Midwest. I hate USC, ND, OSU, Michigan along with AL, FL and any other team Tennessee is playing.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
If I win the Powerball...just know that we are going to buy the greatest CFB team of all time.
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HoleInTheRoof said:
Reading Andy Bowsers rant on Twitter about how he was framed and banned from UT campus (unless it’s a sporting event) and the cops had to tell him he can’t call Donde Plowmans phone is pure gold.

The sonuvabish has no clue how bat 💩 crazy he is.
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I need the backstory
 
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Devo182 said:
I know she already has her hand in the TV stuff, but man if she ever wanted to be the LV HC after her career and we had an opening, I think she'd be pulling the #1 class every year. She's too smart, charismatic, well known, well versed not to. She'd kill it on the Xs and Os too.
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In many ways, Candace is our female version of Peyton. She has huge respect throughout the sports world. Great ambassador for UT.
 
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