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ChattaTNVol said:
Debating the Nico “effect” on our recruiting -

I’ve always thought that fanbases tended to being a mostly delusional mob. The mentality is a bit of a roller coaster but the notion that kids love a school as much as its fans do to me is seldom the case during recruiting. Fans of course want to feel that way but I think it’s delusional especially in the recruiting phase and maybe moreso with a dumpster fire of a has-been program that is frequently the laughing stock of the college football world. jmo.

Nico is an elite QB and has the cool vibe thing going maybe without equal but all these elite kids are and have been the cool kids in their own worlds pretty much their entire lives. jmo.

I think the “Nico effect” is $8,000,000. When I first saw that story and all the buzz it created across the entire landscape of college football I thought it was the greatest thing ever. I honestly still believe it was a deliberate move on our part to get the story out. I just hoped we were doing it right. I think we are. The point is all these elite kids are giving us a look in large measure perhaps because we can and maybe will pay significantly more than most. jmo.

Without a doubt I think one would be hard pressed to find a better poster child for our recruiting class than Nico Iamaleava but I don’t think that’s the critical focus. jmo.

It’s a business decision. It was a business decision in 2014 & 15 when Butch was here. It was a business decision when Pruitt was here. It’s always going to be a business decision. jmo.

Anyone who wants elite recruits flocking to Rocky Top and suiting up for the Orange & White should seriously consider some contribution to the collective that is going to “legally” get these kids paid. jmo.

I don’t think Josh Heupel will be here 6 years from now. He’ll be fired or at least I think so. He can’t compete with anyone worth competing with unless he has the talent on the field. Period. If you think he is the exception then more power to you but I am an absolute believer that most often it is NOT the coach that makes the players but the players that make the coach. So if you are smitten with Josh Heupel and aren’t doing anything to help him with the top targets on his recruiting board then you’re not really all that committed to his success or the success of our program so we’ll end up moving down our recruiting board trying to find hopefully at least some high 3-star bodies to fill out our roster. jmo.

Something to keep in mind, we play against NFL talent at quite a number of our opponents year in and year out. Without comparable talent we have less than a 20% chance of winning those games. jmo.

Using the NFL draft as a guide, around 40% of all 5-star recruits out of high school are busts. Around 75% of all 4-star kids are busts. 94% of 3-star kids are busts and 98% of 2-star and not rated kids are busts. Busts being defined as they don’t make an NFL roster. Right now we have a 3-star roster and this year could turn out to be the lowest number of blue chip kids we’ve had since the Dooley years. jmo.

We do things like “Butch gets it” and “Heupel can’t recruit” to have fun and support our program but Butch didn’t get it and Heupel can’t recruit. WE can get it and WE can recruit and those who want to see Heupel and our program recruit for success at an elite level if they can afford anything really need to consider contributing to our war chest otherwise it’s just a bunch of bluster as the clock of reality ticks closer to our next coaching search. jmo.
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Not your normal posting style, but you allude to some issues that have everyone guessing about what's next for college football. Is "recruiting" still a factor, or is it all about the money? Is it worth paying a head coach $10m + a year, or tell your boosters to save that money for the players? Is it still possible to build a good team over several years, by teaching them how to work together and execute with precision, or better to fork over big bucks and accumulate enough superstar athletes for a one year grab at the brass ring, knowing full well that many or most of your stars will be scavenged by the transfer portal and the NFL come spring? Is it even possible for teams (i.e., fans and boosters) to maintain a large NIL "payroll" year after year unless there's a true positive ROI on these payments? How many 18-20 year old males are mature enough to be paid large sums of money straight out of high school and still maintain discipline, work ethic, common sense?

I'm negative about the future in general, so I guess that taints my vision of where cfb is heading. But, if the center somehow does hold, this experiment with draftless, contractless, 18 year old guns for hire should be interesting.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
He's binge watching Friends and Mad About You.
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While listening to new age country music, mumbling under his breath what a bunch of DAM* IDIOTS we all are for liking either. @DeusExMachina, laugh at yourself every once in awhile, it’ll do you good. Or not, IDGAF either way.
 
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VOLSONLY said:
Ahhh Looney Tunes now that was cartoons, Saturday mornings was the best. These kids today don’t know what they missed
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I posted this the other day and it is sublime and took my dumbass a couple of times to catch it. Acme, the dispatcher, A-1 is a better product..lol. Much better resolution on this one

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