Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Orange.]

Completely disagree there is maybe 3 other teams that can match depth with Georgia and Alabama, the only thing working against is schedule…

Schedule means we need even more depth.

I don't see why you don't grasp the point. Say we had injuries. I don't want to even talk about that in detail at the moment. But subtract 5 or 6 guys and see what you think. Then, since it's human nature to cherry pick examples, repeat the thought experiment, but this time deliberately choosing the 6 that would cause the most damage. I'll think you'll see what people are saying.

 

[bignewt]

Don't make me come up there to New York and Zucchini you.

Ok guys you need to squash this.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I was able to borrow some money from my mom-in-law to buy an 2008 car that gets 35 mpg. I got sick of it costing me $100 just to get back and forth to work.

This will save me over $200 a month in gas, but now I have to pay back $3500 and my insurance went up $85 a month. It will take a while to start to really save me any money, but I would rather spend it on something I own, than literally just burning piles of money every month.

It's not that big of a deal for me. I work from home. But my heart goes out to everyone it does affect greatly.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

A good number of those guys are listed as three stars when they're actually 4 stars. Like Miton, Mohan, Joseph's, Pearce etc.

We are thin as far as having an Uber talented two deep littered with two stars, but you can't question the amount of experience returning. Otherwise we are way less thin scholarship and roster wise this year compared to last year.

Measure how we feel about the roster this year compared to last?

What group other than DB could we say we felt better about last year than this year? We also didn't know how good Theo could be. Still bring back all but two guys and two good transfers.

Can't say you felt better about the OL just because of Cade. Guys like Cooper and Carvin proved theyre good last year and other guys proved they can play if called upon and we bring almost all of them back plus Mincey.

Maybe you feel even about RB?

The rest you no question feel better about it because we bring back so much.

The tone around here would be better if we were able to land more guys in the transfer portal.

Going 7-5 will be an abject failure bringing back what we bring back. It would mean that no one developed, no one got better and it would be gravely concerning.

We should win 8 games minimum.

We're for sure better this year than last year. I don't know what the final record will be so many factors that are outside anyone's control. Injuries could completely alter the results, so saying 7-5 is an abject failure before we even get through fall camp is not something I would do.

I felt better about WRs last year than this year and OL as well.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Trust me im not missing your point it’s just a weak argument to prove that we are “thin” across the board when we are maybe thin at two positions

Have a good day.

 

[Voltime123]

No your point was that we weren't thin. Then it was AL and GA. Then it was the schedule. Then it was NC. Now it is the schedule.

No one who stating that we are thin said or even imagined that we don't have a hard schedule. I doubt anyone on this board at any time has ever thought that we didn't have a hard schedule.

The issue is we lack depth. Now consider that no will ever think in all of time that that statement means we have an easy schedule.

No my point was we are not a thin team overall just because we might be thin at two positions…

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Since the depth/talent roster debate is ongoing...

I think the Ole Miss game was about the best example of where we are when we face a team with nearly equal roster talent/depth. We lost, but it took all the BS bad calls the SEC could mustard for it to happen.

Pitt's roster was as good or better, but they had clear separation at the QB position.
Bama/Georgia clearly better
Florida (at the time) better overall as well...
Purdue bowl game that meant nothing so really not sure if worth considering

My hope is that Florida has stalled. Mullin never was considered a great developer of talent, they had plenty of attrition, and Napier isn't exactly a proven P5 coach or recruiter...

Still...Florida/LSU are the coin flip games that could be the difference in 7-5 or 9-3 if you ask me.

 

[Nuctech777]

We're for sure better this year than last year. I don't know what the final record will be so many factors that are outside anyone's control. Injuries could completely alter the results, so saying 7-5 is an abject failure before we even get through fall camp is not something I would do.

I felt better about WRs last year than this year and OL as well.

Most jumps happen in year 2. We exceeded expectations last year and were so close to a few more wins. This year we know who our QB is from the start, and the entire offense will be way more familiar with our scheme. The offense should improve. I can only hope that we have made some improvements on defense as that is my question mark. However, it has been mentioned already and I agree, if we can generate a pass rush this year, the rest of the defense will improve.

 

[Voltime123]

Schedule means we need even more depth.

I don't see why you don't grasp the point. Say we had injuries. I don't want to even talk about that in detail at the moment. But subtract 5 or 6 guys and see what you think. Then, since it's human nature to cherry pick examples, repeat the thought experiment, but this time deliberately choosing the 6 that would cause the most damage. I'll think you'll see what people are saying.

Injuries happen to all college football teams but our roster in no more thin than a Texas or UNC lol I don’t get the argument that we are a thin team when only two positions on the team as a whole is thin or without experience in the two deep

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

We're for sure better this year than last year. I don't know what the final record will be so many factors that are outside anyone's control. Injuries could completely alter the results, so saying 7-5 is an abject failure before we even get through fall camp is not something I would do.

I felt better about WRs last year than this year and OL as well.

Well duh if we have significant injuries I'm not going to expect much.

I think my biggest problems are with people having more faith in our opponents. When every single one of them minus UGA and Bama have more question marks than we do. For whatever reason there's a lot more faith out there for LSU, FLA, UK and USCjr than us.

 

[Voltime123]

Schedule means we need even more depth.

I don't see why you don't grasp the point. Say we had injuries. I don't want to even talk about that in detail at the moment. But subtract 5 or 6 guys and see what you think. Then, since it's human nature to cherry pick examples, repeat the thought experiment, but this time deliberately choosing the 6 that would cause the most damage. I'll think you'll see what people are saying.

Also if schedule is the argument then say we are hamstrung based on schedule not because we are thin at two positions and justify that as being thin across the board lol do you see where im getting at here…we have a good roster that have the makings of at least winning 8 games or more

 

[Voltime123]

Well duh if we have significant injuries I'm not going to expect much.

I think my biggest problems are with people having more faith in our opponents. When every single one of them minus UGA and Bama have more question marks than we do. For whatever reason there's a lot more faith out there for LSU, FLA, UK and USCjr than us.

This times 100

 

[BigSteve09]

Injuries happen to all college football teams but our roster in no more thin than a Texas or UNC lol I don’t get the argument that we a thin team when only two positions on the team as a whole is thin or without experience in the two deep

I was generally agreeing with @Ulysees E. McGill original statement that the high expectations next year (that McGill defined as 9-10+ wins) would be hard. He mentioned a thin roster. I'll let him chime in to define what he means by thin roster, but I took it in the context of his post to be, not deep enough to comfortably state that we would win 9-10 games. Still some question marks at spots, which I agree with, in the context of us getting to 9-10+ wins.

 

[Voltime123]

I was generally agreeing with @Ulysees E. McGill original statement that the high expectations next year (that McGill defined as 9-10+ wins) would be hard. He mentioned a thin roster. I'll let him chime in to define what he means by thin roster, but I took it in the context of his post to be, not deep enough to comfortably state that we would win 9-10 games. Still some question marks at spots, which I agree with, in the context of us getting to 9-10+ wins.

Fair enough

 

[BigSteve09]

Fair enough

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Well duh if we have significant injuries I'm not going to expect much.

I think my biggest problems are with people having more faith in our opponents. When every single one of them minus UGA and Bama have more question marks than we do. For whatever reason there's a lot more faith out there for LSU, FLA, UK and USCjr than us.

Kentucky should have more faith...I mean they may not beat us, but they have won 8 or more in 3 of the last 4 seasons and return their starting QB.

I don't get why anyone thinks a Florida team that collapsed like they did with a new HC who hasn't done anything at the P5 level is going to be as good or better than us. I'm also confused by South Carolina and the media's love of Beamer.

LSU is a hard place to fail at...in fact other than Orgeron's last two seasons you have to go back all the way to 1999 to find a season with less than 8 wins as the final result. Brian Kelly also has just 2 losing seasons in his 18 years coaching...but LSU could also be due for a down turn and with A&M, Ole Miss, Arkansas and even Mississippi State starting to show some serious life someone in the West has to get shuffled down to being their Vandy....

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Yep. But it happens. Patriots undefeated season team is without question one of the best teams the NFL has seen and they didn't win it all. Peyton's 2013 Broncos also were a dominant team that you could argue was the best ever and didn't win it all. 2015-16 Warriors team as well.

I don't think we'll see another baseball season this dominant either, but I think we very well could see a CWS title from a team that gets hot at the right time and closes the season strong.

I don’t necessarily hold college baseball or college basketball to the same standard because of how hard it is to win a championship in both and with it being one game move on or double elimination. That being said, in most other sports, if you don’t have a championship next to your name you aren’t the best team of all time.

Even football honestly goes up there with college baseball/basketball because any NFL team can beat any other NFL team on any given day. 1 off game and you’re out. Extremely thin margins. But any sport like NBA, NFL or MLB and you can’t win 4 out of 7 to win a series, you just can’t be the best team of all time, IMO.

 

[Orange.]

 

[Rishvol]

Ok guys you need to squash this.

They may do it if you stop gourding them on

 

[Orange.]

They may do it if you stop gourding them on

Tell them DB said so.

 

[Glitch]

Oh my god.

 

[Glitch]

Don't make me come up there to New York and Zollicoffer you.

Fify

 

[Orange.]

Deez butternuts

 

[Orange.]

Bunch of pumpkinheads

 

[bignewt]

you're forcing it. let the game come to you.