Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[Weezer]

I wonder about FSU. I know they are an iconic brand, but they don't really have the money to compete in the ACC anymore. How in the world would they compete in the SEC? If it happens I get it from a branding stand point, but competitively they don't belong.

Can't be worse than Vandy.

 

[DawgInterloper]

100% what a bunch of crap. Between this and the OU/TX moves...wth?

Not long before the B1G and SEC power-hungry commishes push ACC teams into making moves. And wreck yet ANOTHER conference. And all of this at the ruin of every single non-top ~30 program and top-2 conference.

Soo stupid

Stupid from the perspective of fans, but not to people whose ox is potentially getting gored. From my reading about NIL, universities and many athletic departments see this transition to professional college athletics as a threat to their well heeled public/private financial ecosystem. That system has seen uninterrupted rapid revenue growth for decades, above and beyond the overall economy, probably surpassed only by the healthcare and finance sectors. As a group, the people in charge aren't favorably disposed toward belt tightening.

Now, they face a threat from several angles. Massive unpayable student loan debt is a growing political issue, high inflation is being piled onto the already high cost of attending college, and professional sports basically adds a new and potentially large expense line onto the income statement. Even the academic economists can see trouble looming when it threatens their fiefdom.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Kind of crazy what happens when a bunch of money-hungry guys that don't give a crap about the sport get put in positions of power.

 

[Weezer]

I mean, potentially, how big do they want to grow conferences? 18 teams? 20 teams? 24 teams? How do you make that schedule work?

 

[BigSteve09]

The thinking is: "more money now!"

The TV sports boom started with small regional sports networks back in the 80s... then the independent regional networks were gobbled up by larger group sports networks like Group W... then ESPN gobbled up all of those before being devoured by the biggest shark of all-- Disney. And now they're back to regional networks within ESPN, with tiers above and below and ABC catching the overflow. The conferences are becoming less geographically aligned; they're a consortium of brands, with everybody trying to aggregate big brands to create desirable matchups and media narratives that can maximize ratings and revenue.

At some point, the common fan will have had enough. And then the kingdom will start to crumble.

Even before that, the NCAA, backed by the major networks at the time, shut down all of the fledgling independent media deals that the individual universities were entering into in the 50's.

 

[Devo182]

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[Ericvol2096]

Vandy has to be crapping their pants with where this is all headed lol.

 

[BigSteve09]

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not the same thing but carry on

 

[LA Vol]

Even before that, the NCAA, backed by the major networks at the time, shut down all of the fledgling independent media deals that the individual universities were entering into in the 50's.

If you can't shut 'em down, buy 'em. Most independents don't last long, especially in high stakes industries like media and entertainment.

 

[Girth Brooks]

 

[BigSteve09]

If you can't shut 'em down, buy 'em. Most independents don't last long, especially in high stakes industries like media and entertainment.

"Big bank take little bank."
-Abraham Lincoln

 

[Devo182]

I mean, potentially, how big do they want to grow conferences? 18 teams? 20 teams? 24 teams? How do you make that schedule work?

...they'll consider each group of teams its own conference...2 conferences to be exact...16-24 teams in each...we'll give them broader names...like "American" and "National"...and for regional and scheduling purposes we'll make 3-4 divisions within each conference.

We'll call the totality of all of these something unique..like "The Power 6 divisions". Each division will have its own head of power. No one will have any control at either the conference or national level. TV deals will only be done at the divisional level and there will be absolutely no profit-sharing across the league to ensure minimal parity for the national game. Divisions will also be 100% free to take and lose teams to ensure constant imbalance...6 teams here, 3 teams there...that's fine by us. Collectively, our policies will be known as "The Exercise of Industry Worst Practices".

Bet it will work out WONDERFULLY.

 

[VolGee4]

While sitting in my living room is nice most of the year, I have trouble getting through a fall without seeing one game live- whether it’s a unique road trip or at home in the best venue in college football. I’m 6 hours away, so I can’t do every week. It’s what falls mean to me.

The increase in expenses don’t help, but that is college football to me.

 

[BigSteve09]

While sitting in my living room is nice most of the year, I have trouble getting through a fall without seeing one game live- whether it’s a unique road trip or at home in the best venue in college football. I’m 6 hours away, so I can’t do every week. It’s what falls mean to me.

The increase in expenses don’t help, but that is college football to me.

Going to at least one game is a lot of fun. The Florida tickets are going to be insane if we beat Pitt. Everyone will be excited again.

I want to go to at least one game just to hang out in that new section up top.

 

[Devo182]

"Big bank take little bank."
-Abraham Lincoln

"Government take Big Bank Too Big to Fail"

- Some 2000s politician

 

[Jimmy Football]

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

As I always have, I blame Roy Kramer.

That’s my dad you azzhole.

 

[Orange Studs]

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They're away games are going to be truly aaaaaaaaaway games. lol

 

[SugarCC]

That’s my dad you azzhole.

Your dad is the one that created the conference championship game, and I'M the azzhole?!?!?

 

[DarthVol1]

The thinking is: "more money now!"

The TV sports boom started with small regional sports networks back in the 80s... then the independent regional networks were gobbled up by larger group sports networks like Group W... then ESPN gobbled up all of those before being devoured by the biggest shark of all-- Disney. And now they're back to regional networks within ESPN, with tiers above and below and ABC catching the overflow. The conferences are becoming less geographically aligned; they're a consortium of brands, with everybody trying to aggregate big brands to create desirable matchups and media narratives that can maximize ratings and revenue.

At some point, the common fan will have had enough. And then the kingdom will start to crumble.

Exact recipe that killed NASCAR. Went to money grab and expanded into unnatural markets. Then when it crumbled, they had out priced average fans and pissed off the fans in historical markets they left. Will never recover either

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

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[Jackcrevol]

twss

 

[Jackcrevol]

play ball! the game was stale.

 

[Orange.]

Without coats. In late November.

 

[mr.checkerboards]