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#180,751
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Nice camp so far. Defensive backfield is such a mystery. Am looking forward to being pleasantly surprised once the season starts. LB's are more of a known commodity but questions with that group as well. Hope they play with some consistency and depth.
 
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I honestly just take everything (good and bad) from fall camp with a grain of salt. Outside of the injury report, the media’s reports are usually just smoke and mirrors. I used to get all hype based on reports of certain players emerging and then you never see them all season.
I remember we used to get stoked about how good the defense will be because they would shut down our offense in camp, but then it was just because our offense sucked. I’ve also seen the alternative, so you really don’t learn anything (fans & media) from fall camp.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
good point

Ppl who actually thought they should go out there and beat our offense in the first scrimmage are just insane. Like what else did you expect to happen?
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The only thing you can tell from scrimmages is who the key players are going to be….the offense isn’t calling plays to necessarily beat the defense and Vice versa.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I am still at 7-5. I've seen nothing that points to the defense being much better, from what I am picking up, it sounds like the D backfield will be even worse.

The defense is the key to 8+ win season, and we will just continue treading water until the defense as a whole greatly improves.

I hope several of these defensive backs get better real quick, but I am not banking on it.

It doesn't matter how much we score if we can't stop anybody.
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Pass rushers on 3rd down has to get to the QB more often. All of the tackles for a loss don't help when you give up the big 3 rd down plays . Pass rushers help the back end of the defense a heck of a lot.
 
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Pridedad said:
So does anybody have any suggestions on what to do about a 4ft rat snake that crawled from my master bedroom into the bathroom and into a void in the vanity toe kick? I've sealed that up but I don't think that's how it got in?

Any and all suggestions will be considered !!!
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Only one thing to do: BURN THE ENTIRE HOUSE DOWN!!!
 
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tnhunter 10 said:
Swain believes TN has the best QB room in the conference. Said Milton was throwing with touch during the scrimmage.
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Still in the "Milton sucks ass" camp by myself, but I really am hoping he can take the next step so Nico can redshirt and learn for a year. If he can get us to 8-4 next year, I'd consider that a success.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
Still in the "Milton sucks ass" camp by myself, but I really am hoping he can take the next step so Nico can redshirt and learn for a year. If he can get us to 8-4 next year, I'd consider that a success.
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Yeah 8-4 would be fine. We have @bama, @FLA, UGA and A&M. Could definitely win the other 8.

Let's also hope that in our gimme games this year we get Joe Milton some good passing reps.
 
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orangejuice said:
I honestly just take everything (good and bad) from fall camp with a grain of salt. Outside of the injury report, the media’s reports are usually just smoke and mirrors. I used to get all hype based on reports of certain players emerging and then you never see them all season.
I remember we used to get stoked about how good the defense will be because they would shut down our offense in camp, but then it was just because our offense sucked. I’ve also seen the alternative, so you really don’t learn anything (fans & media) from fall camp.
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*grade of slaw
 
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Last year:

Dominating wins:
Three OOC games (BGSU, Tenn Tech, S Ala)
at Mizzou
South Carolina
Vanderbilt

Close wins:
at Kentucky

Close losses:
Pitt
Ole Miss

Games we weren't in:
at Florida
at Bama
Georgia


This year:

We have three more OOC games that we should win handily.

Are Mizzou, SCar, or Vandy improved enough to beat us this year? Knowing what we know about all of those opponents. For one of them to beat us, they would have to improve in a major way, and we would have to take a significant step back. None of those games were close. We blew the doors off of Mizzou and SCar. Vandy, we took our time but it was never in doubt.

We beat a decidedly better UK team on the road last year. Will we be worse than last season? At home?

We had a better Pitt team on the ropes last year, when we were still discovering our team and system. They've lost a lot. Will we be worse?

We swap a better Ole Miss team for a worse LSU team, albeit on the road.

Bama and Georgia will still be tough and should be considered losses. If we do win one of those, though, then the season is obviously a success, even if we don't improve over 7 wins.

We can all agree that the Florida result is skewed. Still, a challenge for us.

Even grading these harshly...

Sure wins:
Three OOC
at Vanderbilt

Probable wins:
at South Carolina
Missouri
Kentucky

50/50:
at Pitt
Florida
at LSU

Probable losses:
Alabama
at UGA

Even if we move one of our probable wins to 50/50, you're looking at 7-5 at worst, probably 8-4. 9-3 not out of the question.

@Ulysees E. McGill - can you share your 5 losses? Pitt, Florida, LSU, UGA, Bama?
 
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volbeast33 said:
The only thing you can tell from scrimmages is who the key players are going to be….the offense isn’t calling plays to necessarily beat the defense and Vice versa.
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This x1000

Scrimmages are mostly situational even if it looks like "live" action. Like Banks' interception, he most likely knew the play call of the offense in that spot and just happened to react and pick the read Hendo made. In those situations execution is king more than play calling. Banks made the right read and executed, Hendo didn't necessarily make the wrong read he just didn't executed as well. Heupel's comment on that play basically said the same thing.

One reason the NFL has live scrimmages against different teams and why they have a preseason. Cause camp isn't the same. We'll see in the first game what this team will really look like more than anything we'll get in scrimmages.
 
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I always pick a range of wins because there are so many uncontrollable elements to a season…injuries, refs, stupid Covid, etc…. This year I have it 6-10 so 8 most likely. McGill, who always looks at what could go wrong, having us at 7 is encouraging.

But my question is, why do other teams always get the “it’s the second year in the system” hype from national media (and coaches), but Tennessee is automatically going to be worse especially on defense? There has got to be an advantage to being in the second year with coaches and system. I find the comments by Garner extremely encouraging because I remember what he said last year. The secondary will have the advantage of less time defending plus more players to rotate. This time last year nobody saw Theo doing what he did.
We still have depth problems. We’re not loaded like GA and AL but few are. But we sure are not worse than 10-15 of the teams ahead of us in the coaches poll that don’t play AL and GA. It’s going to take a few years to build a team. I am going to enjoy the offense while we’re building.
 
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