Recruiting Forum Football Talk LVIII

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Brillovol said:
I love the investment in personnel. The workload to build a national powerhouse demands an adequate staff. The benefits are huge, not the least of which is the stress it takes off of the head coach. JMO, but $2M in salaries for the auxiliary staff still might not be enough to play with the big boys. Fulmer gets it and it shows. This support was nonexistent with the past 3 AD’s, and it showed. Infrastructure, yes, personnel, no.



My only issue: why replace the weight room floor twice in 5 months!?
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They were finally using the weight room?
 
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McGeesPub said:
Not sure I buy that aspect of it at all - as in, I don’t think that’s why he’s bringing several in.

I think he’s doing it to win short term, which, while important, I don’t want to see a fifth of a Recruiting class taken up by grad transfers. I actually agree with Bruin - an extra win isn’t important enough to justify it. I know the counter argument is if that win means a bowl game, but I’m not convinced these potential transfers are difference makers in that regard.
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I’m ok with 19 being a smaller class because I feel like it will be full of impact players. Rather have 20 impact guys over 8-10 impact guys and 15-17 meh guys.
 
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HankHill said:
UGA, Bama, and Auburn are the only games i would put as long shots to win.

Others may not be very likely but we should be in those games.
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Based on nothing other than a gut feeling, I think we have a punchers chance to steal one from Auburn.

Bama and UGA are just too far ahead right now.
 
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rjd970 said:
Based on nothing other than a gut feeling, I think we have a punchers chance to steal one from Auburn.

Bama and UGA are just too far ahead right now.
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I think Auburn will be better than UGA. They are absolutely loaded and may have the best QB in the SEC now.
 
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rjd970 said:
Based on nothing other than a gut feeling, I think we have a punchers chance to steal one from Auburn.

Bama and UGA are just too far ahead right now.
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Agreed. They're replacing a lot on their OL, their all-SEC RB, and they just gave Gus an extension, which will only increase the dysfunction with that fanbase.

We're wedged in with a bunch of other beatable opponents of varying difficulty-- Alabama St, LSU, Arkansas, Southern Miss, @Miss State, and then us with no bye and @Ole Miss the week following. Maybe they get lulled to sleep on a win streak?
 
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HankHill said:
I think Auburn will be better than UGA. They are absolutely loaded and may have the best QB in the SEC now.
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Auburn s problem is consistency.

They did beat UGA and bama.

So yeah, they're good enough. Just have to good enough more often, in the right games.
 
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DawgInterloper said:
The debate about grad transfers is one I've been thinking about recently. I'm still not completely clear on the new rules, but I think the initial counter changes will eventually slow down the rate of schools taking transfers. Sorry for the long explanation below, but I'm interested to see if I'm wrong about this.

When some conferences went to a 25 per year limit a few years back, teams that fell below the 85 limit could still make up numbers by taking un-recruited transfers (grad or JUCO), because they didn't count against the annual 25 signing limit. And if a new signee didn't qualify, grad transfers could be used to fill that spot too, or you could sign an extra player next year and count back. There was little to no downside for taking a player who would only be around for one year, or maybe two in the case of a JUCO.

But now, if I have it right, you can only take an average of 25 initial counters over time, and that includes transfers and players who don't qualify academically, which means 100 total initial counters over 4 years. Any attrition beyond 15 total players from that 100 (over 4 years), will leave you below the 85 limit at some point. That attrition includes injuries, dropouts, non-qualifiers, transfers out, leaving early to the NFL, etc. It also includes transfers who come in with less than 4 years to play. Red shirting players would give you a longer availability, but doesn't really change the effective roster since a red shirt isn't an active participant.

Maybe somebody has a better understanding than I do, but this is my interpretation. It seems like using one of your 25 annual spots for players who can't stay at least 4 years is a liability. Honestly, I don't see how this is going to work over time without pushing some teams' scholarship rosters down to levels well below 85.
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I agree that the hard 25 limit really hamstrings programs that might run into a bad stretch with injuries, transfers, etc. If anything, it rewards stable programs and makes it harder to steer out of the ditch for programs in the shape we’re in. I would like to see grad transfers not count against the hard 25 limit.
 
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LaagerVol said:
I’m ok with 19 being a smaller class because I feel like it will be full of impact players. Rather have 20 impact guys over 8-10 impact guys and 15-17 meh guys.
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I agree, 20 impact guys in a class of 19 would be impressive.

No class ever bats 1.000 though, seriously. And that argument doesn’t make a lot of sense if you are saying we only get that many impact guys with a smaller class. We probably aren’t facing an either/or situation.
 
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Didn’t UGA take 26 guys this class?

How? Is the 25 cap really a cap, or is it like the salary cap in the NFL where you aren’t supposed to exceed it but there are tons of tricks you can do to basically exceed it.
 
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McGeesPub said:
I agree, 20 impact guys in a class of 19 would be impressive.

No class ever bats 1.000 though, seriously. And that argument doesn’t make a lot of sense if you are saying we only get that many impact guys with a smaller class. We probably aren’t facing an either/or situation.
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My only point is im confident this staff will bring in impact players so it isn’t as critical to bring in a huge number next year. The ones we do get will be productive. I’m happy to have a coach that wants to win and win now.

Imo an extra win or two this year > an extra 3-4 players next year.
 
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