Recruiting Forum Football Talk LVIII

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scvolfan7 said:
2015 team was a playoff team in hindsight 😭
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It totally was. Even then, how much was lost by dumb coaching decisions like have a roatation of like ten different WRs.

I was at the Outback Bowl. I remember walking out of there thinking we should have been in the playoffs, but there’s no way we’re not gonna be next year.
 
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RiotVol said:
2015 and 2016, man...

I’ve wondered about this a lot from a statistical sense: How do you handicap coaching relative to talent? Dave Bartoo and other folks have all of these complex ways of doing it, but I’m skeptical. I think they’re probably over-fitting their models and then selling ADs on results that don’t have good year-over-year predictive value.

My hunch - good coaching can get you a game or two above what your pre-season talent would predict. On the other hand, bad coaching can cost you a lot more games. In other words, coaching has a much lower floor than ceiling. I think a good part of this is the ability of a bad coach to either not play, or misuse talent is so costly. It’s more devastating over the long haul, and the past couple of drafts have shown us how f@&$ing bad the last staff was at putting players in a position to succeed.

I wonder how much money Butch has cost these players.
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Bartoo’s coach effect isn’t complicated. Coaches get a +1 if they beat a team with a higher average recruiting ranking and a -1 is they lose to a worse team. He doesn’t even weight for experience or positional talent disparity match ups.
 
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RiotVol said:
It totally was. Even then, how much was lost by dumb coaching decisions like have a roatation of like ten different WRs.

I was at the Outback Bowl. I remember walking out of there thinking we should have been in the playoffs, but there’s no way we’re not gonna be next year.
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Thy used to frustrate me to know in. Never let our WRs get in rythem. Make a 16 yard grab and have a seat.
 
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#931
By the end of May, we will have Wanya, Keyton, Fields, and Brown, and maybe a couple more. Things are heating up.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
Okay here's a complete list, I believe, of our undrafted free agent signees:

  • OL Jashon Robertson - Dallas Cowboys
  • OL Brett Kendrick - Detroit Lions
  • DL Kendal Vickers - Pittsburgh Steelers
  • LB Colton Jumper - New Orleans Saints
  • KR Evan Berry - Cleveland Browns
  • CB Emmanuel Mosely - San Francisco 49'ers
  • TE Ethan Wolf - Tennessee Titans
  • P Trevor Daniel - Houston Texans

All of them made it there without the benefit of quality coaching or a reliable S&C program. Unlikely just based on teams limited roster spots (53 active and 8 man practice squad) but really hoping each of these VFL make it.
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I think Daniel and Berry make the roster.
 
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The most frustrating thing to me was when we would run the ball up the middle and into the back of our OL over and over again. The **** angles we took to make tackles by our safeties. I just want average coaching.
 
#937
#937
I have watched the last 20 minutes of this Cavs-Pacers game, which is the most all playoffs. There have been 2 flops by Lebron. Several days ago, I was tired of the discussion, but I had to go there.
 
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volgee4 said:
i have watched the last 20 minutes of this cavs-pacers game, which is the most all playoffs. There have been 2 flops by lebron. Several days ago, i was tired of the discussion, but i had to go there.
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volfanngatorland said:
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It’s gamesmanship. It’s no different than framing pitches in baseball or a defensive lineman throwing his hands up looking for a holding call.

It’s also harder to play defense now because you cant grab and hold guys before.
 
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#940
He’s pathetic. Has had a good game tho so I’ll give him credit. Still a crybaby who would never make it when real physical basketball was played.
 
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HankHill said:
It’s gamesmanship. It’s no different than framing pitches in baseball or a defensive lineman throwing his hands up looking for a holding call.

It’s also harder to play defense now because you cant grab and hold guys before.
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I will give you that he may be the GOAT at flopping. It's like he is shot through a cannon at light contact.

That's why the NBA is hard to watch. You don't see the great college players do it.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I will give you that he may be the GOAT at flopping. It's like he is shot through a cannon at light contact.

That's why the NBA is hard to watch. You don't see the great college players do it.
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College basketball is awful. If i wanted to see teams score 60 points and clang balls off the rim i would just go to the rec center
 
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HankHill said:
It’s gamesmanship. It’s no different than framing pitches in baseball or a defensive lineman throwing his hands up looking for a holding call.

It’s also harder to play defense now because you cant grab and hold guys before.
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Bro stop. This isn’t soccer. You can’t defend that p**** s***
 
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