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It absolutely happened. He grabbed Riyadh Jones by the throat in the athletic cafeteria too.

There are tons of these similar stories.
Not sayin these things did/didn’t happen.
Just don’t understand how in this day with social media that none of these things were the death of Jones. No way a coach could still have his job after treating players like Bob Knight. Then on top of that get another job. Even though it is a intern 😂😂😂.

He got fired bc he couldn’t get it done. Hell im sure UT would be trying to get that buyout money if these are ALL facts.
 
NashVegas is a fool and doesn’t know what he is saying. On Friday, August 14, 2015 Coach Jones physically and criminally assaulted starting Offensive Center Crowder. Coach Jones selectively targeted and struck Crowder in the sternum/solar plexus region with two (2) closed fist strikes.

The assault incident occurred by Coach Jones resulted because the 2nd team offensive linemen had performed very poorly during a particular practice repetition, and not from any known actions caused directly by Crowder who was practicing on the 1st team unit.

Upon noticing the poor performance of the 2nd team offensive linemen, Coach Jones became enraged and immediately ran over to the 1st team offensive linemen that were standing huddled to the side preparing to go their next turn. During Coach Jones’ out-of-control cussing rage he targeted and then aggressively swung his closed fist and struck Crowder in the high stomach / solar plexus area two (2) times. Upon realizing he was being assaulted, Crowder’s immediate response was defensive. Crowder responded by shoving Coach Jones backward by using his open hands on the shoulders of Coach Jones and then stepping toward Coach Jones and strongly stating, “Don’t ever hit me like that again.”

At that point Coach Jones then responded with verbal assaults. Coach Jones continued his assault with verbal remarks about how pitiful the entire Offensive unit had been performing. Although their are photographs showing Crowder was the leader of the Oline performance charts, Coach Jones benched Crowder for several games against Coach Mahoney’s advice.

Most of the players, several staff, and at least three coaches witnessed the assault incident. It supposedly was caught on camera. The “Assault” story was damaging Butch Jones’ ability to recruit and other competitive major football programs were using the nation-wide assault story as leverage to recruit athletes away from the Tennessee Football Program. Public comments were being made that other major football programs.

Coach Jones became paranoid and issued "TENNESSEE FOOTBALL” IPads to several Players with Spyware Installed to monitor what they were saying. It was the same IPad
Crowder was using while training for the NFL in Tampa whenever someone at the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Department began targeting Crowder out of the blue. FAA flight records show Jones flying into Pinellas just days before the entrapment attempts occurred. Ultimately, some false charges were made and then later dropped but only after Crowder missed his chances with the NFL, something Coach Jones wanted to block, in fear his Assault story would become a national story.
Thanks for the update, Mack. How many underage girls have you been trying to hook up with, lately?
 
Thanks for the update, Mack. How many underage girls have you been trying to hook up with, lately?

That clown thinks that anyone outside of the Crowder 5 is going to believe Tampa police will arrest someone for child soliciting because a HC from a TN said so. Lmao. They couldn't do that if they wanted to. Have to have evidence for solicitation. At the end of the day he wanted to bang a young girl and that's gross so I have no sympathy for any bad that comes his way.
 
That clown thinks that anyone outside of the Crowder 5 is going to believe Tampa police will arrest someone for child soliciting because a HC from a TN said so. Lmao. They couldn't do that if they wanted to. Have to have evidence for solicitation. At the end of the day he wanted to bang a young girl and that's gross so I have no sympathy for any bad that comes his way.
Are you trying to tell me that if you’re heading a task force and an out of state college HC shows up on a PRIVATE JET...that you don’t get right on setting up whatever kid he points at? C’mon brah! Private JET!
 
That clown thinks that anyone outside of the Crowder 5 is going to believe Tampa police will arrest someone for child soliciting because a HC from a TN said so. Lmao. They couldn't do that if they wanted to. Have to have evidence for solicitation. At the end of the day he wanted to bang a young girl and that's gross so I have no sympathy for any bad that comes his way.
100 % agree.
 
Crowder 5 sitting around wondering what CBJ is scheming up against poor Mack next.

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Not sayin these things did/didn’t happen.
Just don’t understand how in this day with social media that none of these things were the death of Jones. No way a coach could still have his job after treating players like Bob Knight. Then on top of that get another job. Even though it is a intern 😂😂😂.

He got fired bc he couldn’t get it done. Hell im sure UT would be trying to get that buyout money if these are ALL facts.
The fact of the matter is this stuff happens all over the country because college sports are so dirty. There’s a ton being covered up every day to keep the status quo.

Tennessee covered up a lot of dirty Butch Jones stuff because they thought he was a winning football coach.
 
The fact of the matter is this stuff happens all over the country because college sports are so dirty. There’s a ton being covered up every day to keep the status quo.

Tennessee covered up a lot of dirty Butch Jones stuff because they thought he was a winning football coach.

Lyle Jones has the megalomania and paranoia of Joseph Stalin.
 
No you’re not. Guess Butch set that up too?
Wrong. “Unlawful use of a computer” and it was never adjudicated because there was never Probable Cause that could be substantiated for the initial contacts made by the officer who started the conversations posing as an adult who then later changed the story to a 14 y.o.. The District Attorney in FL needed to avoid a major lawsuit and asked for a deal that ultimately was never made public. It was a huge embarrassment for everyone. Crowder has no legal record and no conviction.
 
So much positive recruiting news on big recruits I am starting to become skeptical. Do you think these services might be trying to generate hype to increase subs?
 
It absolutely happened. He grabbed Riyadh Jones by the throat in the athletic cafeteria too.

There are tons of these similar stories.

Ehh, I’m sure stuff happened but I’m not buying that story how it was told. Doesn’t make sense.

Reread what was written and it’s obvious there’s some inherant bias in there. They guy tried to blame Butch for setting up Crowder in a sex sting operation in Tampa. Cmon.
 
Wrong. “Unlawful use of a computer” and it was never adjudicated because there was never Probable Cause that could be substantiated for the initial contacts made by the officer who started the conversations posing as an adult who then later changed the story to a 14 y.o.. The District Attorney in FL needed to avoid a major lawsuit and asked for a deal that ultimately was never made public. It was a huge embarrassment for everyone. Crowder has no legal record and no conviction.
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And yet he let them skip workouts and practices? And fired Lawson to pacify malcontents? I don't understand the contradiction, and I never will.
In the words of Alvin Kamara when being asked to describe his experience at Tennessee, "it was ****** up man".
 
Ehh, I’m sure stuff happened but I’m not buying that story how it was told. Doesn’t make sense.

Reread what was written and it’s obvious there’s some inherant bias in there. They guy tried to blame Butch for setting up Crowder in a sex sting operation in Tampa. Cmon.
Lol that whole story is way out of left field.
 
Ehh, I’m sure stuff happened but I’m not buying that story how it was told. Doesn’t make sense.

Reread what was written and it’s obvious there’s some inherant bias in there. They guy tried to blame Butch for setting up Crowder in a sex sting operation in Tampa. Cmon.
Yeah, I don’t buy all the sex sting stuff. But I heard about the punch immediately after it happened - way before Mack became a sex offender.
 
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Not yet. I was going to in a couple of years but I may be maxed out on my muscular potential... which if true, is rather pathetic.

I can say with full honesty, after 10 months of bulking, I am not sure I have gained a pound of muscle. It’s pretty shocking. I thought I had 10-15 pounds left, but the game seems to be near the end.

Long story short, at my best, I have nowhere near enough mass for the stage, but look pretty good at the pool

I will stretch this mass phase till the end of February and evaluate if any progress has been made. If so, maybe minicut down to 10% and mass for another 8 months or so. If no apparent progress, I will likely cut to 8% , live there, and adjust my training to what is most enjoyable

What are you weighing at 10%?
 
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