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[Orangeburst]

I feel like I wasted 6 minutes there

It was bananas..lol

 

[Orangeburst]

Just to let people know that do not know(not implying that you don't, just clarifying for those who have never been there)...The whole 40 mile long range is called "The Tetons", but there are three high peaks in the middle of the range named South Teton, Middle Teton and Grand Teton. There are 8 peaks over 12,000 feet including Mt Moran, with the Grand Teton being the tallest at 13,700 and some change.

If Grand Teton was in Tennessee, it would be named Dolly Peaks.

Edit: Dangit..late

 

[tnvols72]

Nice Int from MTSU DB right there

 

[drvenner]

It was bananas..lol

I mean, I was expecting like fisticuffs at the very least.

 

[jakez4ut]

Bad enough that tax and accounting services offices are trolling them.

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[SoilVol]

Um, please don't take this the wrong way, but what exactly is there to judge about soil, and how do you do it better than everyone else?

No offense taken. I thought it was dumb at first, too. I did it to get out of school and travel to contests. Then I figured, "Well if I'm gonna do this then I'm gonna be better than everyone else at it." Then I found it to be pretty fun.

Soil forms "horizons" or horizontal layers over time. They can be different colors, have different make ups of sand/silt/clay, they have have different structures etc. Part of the judging is to identify where the horizons are, how many there are, and what the percentage makeup of sand silt and clay are. All with your hands, down to at least 1.5-2.5 meters. Sometimes 3 meters (7-9 feet down).

Then every soil type has it's own name based on the history of how it formed and its age. You have to determine that. You have to determine the origin of the soil. Was it deposited by water, erosion/gravity, did it form in place, did wind blow it there, did it used to be the bottom of the ocean, etc. Based on knowledge of the area and what clues you find.

Then there's other stuff- landscape position, slope %, site position (upland, stream terrace, etc).

So in a contest you've got 3 of these pits dug across an area and you rotate around them. You get an allotted time for you and 20-30 competitors to get into the pit and you fill out a contest card based on what you believe everything is. The whole contest will have 100+ contestants over 20 ish schools for the region, then the same for nationals if your team qualifies.

So that's that. Highest overall score wins. That year we beat VT twice. Once in regions and I finished Top 10 in the Southeast. Then the two schools went 1 and 2 at nationals as well, I finished Top 15. Pretty sure VT has won 4 straight regions and nationals since 2018, and won at least 2 straight before 2018. We basically LSU'ed them that year, and won by huge margins and have been only decent since we all graduated.

 

[Orangeburst]

I mean, I was expecting like fisticuffs at the very least.

At first I was thinking a meh straight flush

I drew a Royal Flush one time at my BIL on some waste of time penny card throwing with three of us...5 card stud..No WC
It was weird as it was such a penny game I didnt even know it but took three and drew it. Think I won like 5 bucks..lol

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Are you saying 4-0 and 8-5 are similar?

All I am saying is we complained about Friend even though we had a good year. But now, we are having a great year so far, the numbers say our pass defense is horrible. Why can’t we criticize the DB coach? Why is that taboo?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

And blind criticism is?

'If they play bad, coaches bad.'
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I'm sitting here watching the game again and a play just finished where AR had to throw it away... Reason 'he had no where to go. Good tight coverage by the secondary'...according to Gary anyway.

Point being, it's just lazy arguments one after another and if you're railing on a coach there's absolutely no other explanations or reasons...HAS to be 'coach sucks'.

So whatever.. Continue on with context free debates, pretending everything can be explained in only black and only white.

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It’s been two years. What’s the context? Why is our secondary worse than teams like Vandy and Missouri? Why is our pass defense worse than theirs? I am all ears. Let’s hear it.

 

[engineerVOL]

You sound like a Teton man.

And a moran expert.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

DBs were GREATLY improved last year from the previous year.

Decline this year was somewhat expected with personnel

In 2020, our pass defense was 12th in the SEC. In 2021, we were 13th. So let me get this straight, it was expected that we would have the worst pass defense in the SEC?

 

[Orange.]

All I am saying is we complained about Friend even though we had a good year. But now, we are having a great year so far, the numbers say our pass defense is horrible. Why can’t we criticize the DB coach? Why is that taboo?

You can start a thread in the FF or take it to football talk. You frame your dumb protest in a dishonest manner.

It is absolutely dumb as a rock to insist on misusing this thread for that purpose. If you don't understand the distinction, just log off BOT. You mostly concern troll anyway and spew this fake-a-- "free speech" schlock when you are called out on it. It's pathetic.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

How bad is Miami for losing to MTSU??

Dayum

It is nuts how bad these programs are....but then I remember that we lost to Georgia freakin State...and I wanna puke..

The days of just showing up to play these guys with no plan and no prep is over. I am thankful and confident that none of these scabs will ever get within 4 TDs of us again as long as Heupel us our head coach.

 

[UTMVol76]

In 2020, our pass defense was 12th in the SEC. In 2021, we were 13th. So let me get this straight, it was expected that we would have the worst pass defense in the SEC?

If you couldn’t see the secondary was better last year vs previous years that’s your problem. You’re also looking at pass defense as a whole which is also predicated on LBs in coverage and success in the pass rush.

 

[jakez4ut]

It’s been two years. What’s the context? Why is our secondary worse than teams like Vandy and Missouri? Why is our pass defense worse than theirs? I am all ears. Let’s hear it.

Uh... Read? Plenty of it already posted here.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Lol...that third TD was an awful looking wounded duck..

 

[tnvols72]

Miami must really suck. After watching this MTSU game makes you wonder how bad Miami is

 

[Ace]

I hate off weeks.
I know the players need a break, but football Saturday’s are not the same without the Big Orange. Go Vols!!!!

 

[Ace]

Miami must really suck. After watching this MTSU game makes you wonder how bad Miami is

Well, MTSU was playing UTSA. You can’t stop UTSA, you can only hope to contain them.

 

[tnvols72]

Well, MTSU was playing UTSA. You can’t stop UTSA, you can only hope to contain them.

MTSU QB had no time to throw. He was running for his life all night.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I love looking at other sites odds sometimes you can tell which way the line is going before it flips…I like the picks bro..good luck and leave some in the drop box for me if it hits @Enki_Amenra

MTSU wrecked me,

 

[BigSteve09]

So Nico was 3/3 for 3 TDs to start?

 

[Ace]

Andre Ware said if he had to vote today, he would vote for Michael Penix, Jr for Heisman. What a coincidence that Ware is announcing Penix’s game tonight.

 

[Brillovol]

No offense taken. I thought it was dumb at first, too. I did it to get out of school and travel to contests. Then I figured, "Well if I'm gonna do this then I'm gonna be better than everyone else at it." Then I found it to be pretty fun.

Soil forms "horizons" or horizontal layers over time. They can be different colors, have different make ups of sand/silt/clay, they have have different structures etc. Part of the judging is to identify where the horizons are, how many there are, and what the percentage makeup of sand silt and clay are. All with your hands, down to at least 1.5-2.5 meters. Sometimes 3 meters (7-9 feet down).

Then every soil type has it's own name based on the history of how it formed and its age. You have to determine that. You have to determine the origin of the soil. Was it deposited by water, erosion/gravity, did it form in place, did wind blow it there, did it used to be the bottom of the ocean, etc. Based on knowledge of the area and what clues you find.

Then there's other stuff- landscape position, slope %, site position (upland, stream terrace, etc).

So in a contest you've got 3 of these pits dug across an area and you rotate around them. You get an allotted time for you and 20-30 competitors to get into the pit and you fill out a contest card based on what you believe everything is. The whole contest will have 100+ contestants over 20 ish schools for the region, then the same for nationals if your team qualifies.

So that's that. Highest overall score wins. That year we beat VT twice. Once in regions and I finished Top 10 in the Southeast. Then the two schools went 1 and 2 at nationals as well, I finished Top 15. Pretty sure VT has won 4 straight regions and nationals since 2018, and won at least 2 straight before 2018. We basically LSU'ed them that year, and won by huge margins and have been only decent since we all graduated.

Seriously tho, it’s the soil peeps who tell us engineers where we can build junk. Bravo!

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Andre Ware said if he had to vote today, he would vote for Michael Penix, Jr for Heisman. What a coincidence that Ware is announcing Penix’s game tonight.

Probably the first time he's ever heard of him . . .