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[Orange.]

Kiff to Aubie. Harsin to Liberty. Freeze to Ole Miss. Circle drill.

 

[utkevdawg1]

We are #14 in On3 and #12 on 247.

Yeah we are NOT doing to hot in the overall rankings and probably need to pick it up on recruiting trail.

I think some of the issues is that a class like this would have been great 10-15 years ago but now we have to go against Saban so you need 3-4 5 stars, about 12 4 stars, and some very good 3 stars.

After seeing what Heupel and staff can do with the group of players he got, I don't even care that much about rankings anymore.

Get me the right people in a respectable top 20 or higher class and let Heupel continue show three stars can be made into five stars.

 

[volbound1700]

i remember when I first started following recruiting. Around 2006 or so. These are thoughts I used to have.

I get that but there seems to be some truth. Since Saban took over, Alabama has been in top 3 or so every year.

I think he landed the #1 class his first year at Alabama.

Kirby Smart took over and did same thing at Georgia.



Granted one is a Georgia fan but they are right that you really need to be in that top 5 range to be elite.

 

[volbound1700]

 

[bignewt]

tl;dr

Vols by fiddy

 

[Glitch]

Pruitt might disagree.

This is proof of how incredibly awful Jermy was. Incompetent coaches all over CFB getting paid for failing and he is the one guy that didn't get a nickel.

Q: How bad do you have to eff up to get fired and not get paid?
A: Jermy Pruitt amount of bad

 

[volbound1700]

After seeing what Heupel and staff can do with the group of players he got, I don't even care that much about rankings anymore.

Get me the right people in a respectable top 20 or higher class and let Heupel continue show three stars can be made into five stars.

Yeah, I hope we can buck the trend. We definitely have detractors in other discussions that I am having.

Perhaps the sport is changing.

We are pretty far down the SEC pecking order right now, though . Even Florida is ahead of us in nearly every rankings.

 

[Glitch]

Opelika-Auburn Newspaper listed 22 candidates for the Tigers job and Alex Golesh is on the list. Others on the list: Muschamp, Monken, Chadwell, Josh Gattis, Gundy, Leipold.....

Leave Golesh right were he is and trot out another retread at the Barn

 

[Jimmy Football]

Leave Golesh right were he is and trot out another retread at the Barn

It’s gonna be Lane.

 

[Glitch]

You just sent me into post-Butch PTSD.

 

[bignewt]

Yeah, I hope we can buck the trend. We definitely have detractors in other discussions that I am having.

Perhaps the sport is changing.

We are pretty far down the SEC pecking order right now, though . Even Florida is ahead of us in nearly every rankings.

Ill ask you like I asked the big baby. Whose staff would you rather have?

 

[Sleegro]

Man, being on the outside of silly season is fun.

Yer Darnell Wright about that.

 

[LA Vol]

I’m curious as to your thoughts on the Romo stuff. I don’t think Heupel going to the league is a big concern, at this stage of his career. But do you think there’s any concern from the AD?

I'm sure CJH is on other teams' radars. It would be crazy for him not to be with the incredible success he's had at UT. But I have never heard anyone say, "Sure hope Josh doesn't bolt to the NFL." I know he's very happy at UT, his family loves Knoxville and they're not looking to leave. But good offers come to good people.

What those outside the university don't take into account is that UT HCs are a very tight, very loyal group. They genuinely like each other, and the interprogram support is at a level I haven't seen since Fulmer-Bruce-Pat. And now we can fold in a championship baseball program. So I think these marquee HCs-- who've seen what it's like at other schools-- know the value of the support they have at UT and appreciate it. UT leadership has made UT a special place with the support to grow legacy programs. So if they get an offer and UT gives them what they want, I think they would all stay.

 

[volbound1700]

Ill ask you like I asked the big baby. Whose staff would you rather have?

I agree on ours totally, I am just saying we probably should be ahead of them.

Then again, after some thought, we do have the NCAA crap hanging over us too. That might be impacting things. We may just have a limited number of spots and are happy with the current class. I think we have a good class, it just doesn't seem the recruiting services agree.

 

[volbound1700]

I'm sure CJH is on other teams' radars. It would be crazy for him not to be with the incredible success he's had at UT. But I have never heard anyone say, "Sure hope Josh doesn't bolt to the NFL." I know he's very happy at UT, his family loves Knoxville and they're not looking to leave. But good offers come to good people.

What those outside the program don't take into account is that UT HCs are a very tight, very loyal group. They genuinely like each other, and the interprogram support is at a level I haven't seem since Fulmer-Bruce-Pat. And now we can fold in a championship baseball program. So I think these marquee HCs-- who've seen what it's like at other programs-- know the value of the support they have at UT and appreciate it. UT leadership has made UT a special place with the support to grow legacy programs. So if they get an offer and UT gives them what they want, I think they would all stay.

I am confident that Heupel will be our coach next year.

 

[bignewt]

I agree on ours totally, I am just saying we probably should be ahead of them.

Then again, after some thought, we do have the NCAA crap hanging over us too. That might be impacting things. We may just have a limited number of spots and are happy with the current class. I think we have a good class, it just doesn't seem the recruiting services agree.

Who do you trust more? Our staff or the staff at On3?

 

[zhangliao04]

Auburn’s dumpster fire gave us Rodney Garner. So, thanks Auburn! We appreciate your generous gift!

 

[volbound1700]

Who do you trust more? Our staff or the staff at On3?

This is a dumb take, I am sorry.

You have to believe the recruiting services somewhat because they continue to get things right with Alabama and Georgia who have pretty much dominated the SEC the last 5 years (or 15 in the case of Alabama).

 

[SSVol]

I agree on ours totally, I am just saying we probably should be ahead of them.

Then again, after some thought, we do have the NCAA crap hanging over us too. That might be impacting things. We may just have a limited number of spots and are happy with the current class. I think we have a good class, it just doesn't seem the recruiting services agree.

5-0 is all I need to know.

 

[bignewt]

This is a dumb take, I am sorry.

You have to believe the recruiting services somewhat because they continue to get things right with Alabama and Georgia who have pretty much dominated the SEC the last 5 years (or 15 in the case of Alabama).

A new day is dawning, son. Get with it or get left behind.

 

[volinokc]

Got back to RVA late yesterday after going to my first game in five years. Neyland was absolutely electric. Have been to a number of games over the past 15 years, and you can just feel it's different. Heck of a game day experience, and we as fans deserve every ounce of this. No matter how the season unfolds, was glad to see this team in person. A side note, I was pretty stoked to snag one of these bottles at Cristy's Liquor store, along with enjoying some great lagers at Schulz Brau, and stuffing my face at Southern Grit. Knoxville even better than I remember!
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Dude! How can I get one of those in Oklahoma???

 

[volbound1700]

5-0 is all I need to know.

You mean 8-0?

 

[Odiodin]

This is a dumb take, I am sorry.

You have to believe the recruiting services somewhat because they continue to get things right with Alabama and Georgia who have pretty much dominated the SEC the last 5 years (or 15 in the case of Alabama).

I would not trade our 23 class with anyone else.

Napier can have all the low 4 stars in rhe state of Florida that Miami doesn’t want.

 

[volbound1700]

A new day is dawning, son. Get with it or get left behind.

For us, yes. However, I think we will still be chasing Alabama and Georgia hoping for upsets until we start recruiting at their level. I won't lie, though, I would be totally happy with that compared to where we have been.

We could clean house in December once the staff is done with the season. I am probably just being a worry wart because I am listening to fans on other boards (notably Michigan fans who keep talking about recruiting as their excuse for why they cannot compete with Ohio State regularly).

 

[SweetasSoda]

I've watched this 100 times (really helps that it's a short clip)

This is the product of hard work and excellent coaching.

Not a single hesitation. Even the WRs who are spread out knew exactly what to do and where to be set up.

I have no idea how this was communicated in so fast or if they put the play on the call before on the chance they didn't get the first down from 3rd down. But it is so absurdly fast. Especially on a play most coaches would spend some time thinking about play vs punt and which play and then relay that to the players who have to make sure everyone is on the same page.
So impressive. Might be one of my favorite overall plays this year.

I love it!!!