Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[catchnburn]

That does not look like a fair match

Reminds me of Oak Hill (the school of Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Jerry Stackhouse, Rajon Rondo, etc) coming to play Bearden...

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Bearden hung with them though. Only lost 96-86?

 

[peaygolf]

Jon Kitna rumored to be the next Lipscomb Academy coach..............fwiw.

 

[Vol423]

Big John Tate would have kicked all their asses.

I remember watching Big John Tate fight for the title and winning right up until the time he got dropped in the 15th round (if I recall correctly). That shattered him, and he had a total glass jaw through the rest of his career.

Edit: I looked it up. It was his first title defense in early 1980 against Mike Weaver, and I was correct. He was cruising until Weaver dropped him in the 15th.

 

[volbeast33]

My sons basketball team acted the same way this weekend.

 

[Devo182]

Liston was a beast. His knuckles were 12" wide, reportedly.

No freakin way. That would be amazing, like wearing hulk hands over your real hands, but that's gotta be a myth

Pull out the ruler on your hand.

Even 7'4" Andre the Giant looked to have 8" wide knuckles.

 

[Vol423]

Jon Kitna rumored to be the next Lipscomb Academy coach..............fwiw.

Will Jon Kitna get court permission to leave the state of Texas since he's housing his son prior to his court case and subsequent permanent vacation in the prison system? I'm assuming he can't move his kid across state lines without court approval.

 

[GVol1966]

Can the Alabama player that was arrested for murder play point?

IDK but he can get you a gun if you need one

 

[johnfnkelly]

Miles Campbell to.. NC Central? Was he that much of a bust or just preferred going to a HBCU?

 

[peaygolf]

No freakin way. That would be amazing, like wearing hulk hands over your real hands, but that's gotta be a myth

Pull out the ruler on your hand.

Even 7'4" Andre the Giant looked to have 8" wide knuckles.

Liston was 6'1" with an 84" reach.

"There was nothing unofficial about the size of Sonny Liston`s hands, which were so big he had to have boxing gloves specially made. Liston`s fists measured 15 inches and were the largest of any heavyweight champion. Primo Carnera came close at 14 inches, but he stood 6-5. Liston was 6-1.
Mort Sharnik, the director of boxing for CBS, was with Sports Illustrated in the early `60s when Liston was terrorizing the sport and remembers the visible effect of those hands.
Sharnik said, ''They looked like cannonballs when he made them into fists. Everything about Sonny was foreboding--his eyes were dark and often red --and his hands were an extension of that visage.
''He was the kind of puncher that just to look at him gave you a headache. His opponents used to say that his punches hurt like nothing they`d ever felt. His hands were a visible extension of this power.''

 

[peaygolf]

Will Jon Kitna get court permission to leave the state of Texas since he's housing his son prior to his court case and subsequent permanent vacation in the prison system? I assuming he can't move his kid across state lines without court approval.

I have no clue.........just what several Lipscomb parents and a BA parent said.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Liar. I saw Rocky Balboa beat him too.

“I didn’t hear no bell”

Not my favorite Rocky, but that final fight with Tommy in the street is my favorite moment.

 

[Devo182]

Y’all talking Ali vs Tyson…

The guy I would’ve loved to see either of them fight in their primes is Roy Jones Jr.

Ali was 6’3” with a 78” reach weighed about 215-225 in his prime

Roy was 5’11” with a 74” reach fought MW up to HW in his career (but I think 200-210 was a more natural weight for him)

Tyson was 5’10” with a 71” reach weight around 220 in his prime

Not saying Roy would beat either, just saying those fights would have been great to see.

He was incredibly diverse class-wise.

I'd love to see a true pound-for-pound fight, everyone genetically scaled to the same sizes. Mayweather would suddenly skyrocket up in the ranks. Most technical and maybe the smartest fighter of all time. Albeit notoriously boring.

 

[peaygolf]

He was incredibly diverse class-wise.

I'd love to see a true pound-for-pound fight, everyone genetically scaled to the same sizes. Mayweather would suddenly skyrocket up in the ranks. Most technical and maybe the smartest fighter of all time. Albeit notoriously boring.

Mayweather is in my top 2 LEAST favorite boxers. Can't stand watching him. Technically speaking, one of the best, but my word is he boring.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

No freakin way. That would be amazing, like wearing hulk hands over your real hands, but that's gotta be a myth

Pull out the ruler on your hand.

Even 7'4" Andre the Giant looked to have 8" wide knuckles.

Lol yeah, no way Liston’s were 12” wide. Unless measuring something different, I wear a Large/XL in gloves and mine are only 3.5” to 4” wide (using a ruler so not 100%)

 

[Devo182]

Bearden hung with them though. Only lost 96-86?

The teams played a few times. Iirc yes we did stick close to them one time. The other time was competitive early, but ended up a blowout.

My Bulldogs are very good at basketball, but Oak Hill is just a monster, attracting the top national talent to their private school. The game environments were always fantastic regardless, sellouts and prior players showing up to see it all.

 

[Devo182]

Mayweather is in my top 2 LEAST favorite boxers. Can't stand watching him. Technically speaking, one of the best, but my word is he boring.

100%.

Sometimes elite fundamentals can just be bad for the sport in some ways. Though I'm sure purists love watching the amazing technique...for everyone else it's just not what they want to watch.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Lane channeling his inner Brian Kelly.
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Well, I do declayuh.

 

[UpstateVol613]

Falling apart at Arky.

 

[Devo182]

My sons basketball team acted the same way this weekend.

How dare kids celebrate like the NFL players in the end zone after a TD Now...I did see one act of taunting. I'm not for that. But if you aren't personally taunting, it's just folks having fun.

I've never understood (not directed at you) folks being fine with adults, such as our very own baseball team or more often pro athletes, celebrating and having fun, but not yet kids.

As if adults should be held to a LOWER standard than children. That's clearly absurd. People should at least have some consistency, or if anything, hold the adults and "professionals" to a higher standard. It's what we do in every other sector of life and industry.

 

[TheRain]

 

[MadWorld]

Go check out Dan Carlin's take on boxing. It's just a quick 1 hour podcast. His take is he doesn't think anyone in the modern age, except a few, could hang with boxers from the early/mid 1900's.

 

[Devo182]

Liston was 6'1" with an 84" reach.

"There was nothing unofficial about the size of Sonny Liston`s hands, which were so big he had to have boxing gloves specially made. Liston`s fists measured 15 inches and were the largest of any heavyweight champion. Primo Carnera came close at 14 inches, but he stood 6-5. Liston was 6-1.
Mort Sharnik, the director of boxing for CBS, was with Sports Illustrated in the early `60s when Liston was terrorizing the sport and remembers the visible effect of those hands.
Sharnik said, ''They looked like cannonballs when he made them into fists. Everything about Sonny was foreboding--his eyes were dark and often red --and his hands were an extension of that visage.
''He was the kind of puncher that just to look at him gave you a headache. His opponents used to say that his punches hurt like nothing they`d ever felt. His hands were a visible extension of this power.''

I don't dispute foot-long+ long hands from wrist to fingertip. Mine are 9" with "piano fingers" as my mom called them. Kids called them "ET hands" and told me to phone home and I'm only 5'10. I can easily imagine 14 or even 15" hands from much taller dudes, as you quoted.

But, if I understood Jack's post correctly, he was talking from knuckle to knuckle sideways, with a balled fist as it would be inside a glove while punching, and not spread out either. I do have a hard time believing that. I mean just imagine the same hand is 12" vertically and look at it on your countertop. It looks cartoonish.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Welp. Finally got COVID. Daughter picked it up from daycare we think because she was down for half a day on Sunday, and then we got sick after that. She’s perfectly fine now and running all over the place while we both feel like ****

Guess I’m going to just rewatch a bunch of UT games the next few days to pass the time.

 

[Vol423]

Mayweather is in my top 2 LEAST favorite boxers. Can't stand watching him. Technically speaking, one of the best, but my word is he boring.

I thought I was the only one. To me, there is something very wrong about a boxer that basically never gets hit. I don't care to see it. I don't understand why people pay anything to watch this guy's bouts (because they sure aren't fights).

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I don't dispute foot-long+ long hands from wrist to fingertip. Mine are 9" with "piano fingers" as my mom called them. Kids called them "ET hands" and told me to phone home and I'm only 5'10. I can easily imagine 14 or even 15" hands from much taller dudes, as you quoted.

But, if I understood Jack's post correctly, he was talking from knuckle to knuckle sideways, with a balled fist as it would be inside a glove while punching, and not spread out either. I do have a hard time believing that. I mean just imagine the same hand is 12" vertically and look at it on your countertop. It looks cartoonish.