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What if the goal was to win the SEC regular season or the SEC tournament. There’s some success there.

As a different example, Neyland didn’t care about the bowl games at all. His bowl game record compared to the regular season record was vastly different because of that. I would not consider a bowl loss in that era to really mean anything.
I definitely think that coach Barnes probably has goals of SEC Championship…. Tournament Championship…. And then a Final Four( usually hear coaches talk more about that then the championship itself)

I agree with you about Neyland and it is why it is difficult for me to judge Mears based on todays standards.. Everything was different back at that time..

Back during Neyland’s era…. Bowl games were a reward to let the players celebrate a great season… They didn’t count towards a National Championship.
 
You know we're going to see a tight whistle on Thursday. All this media bitching is going to have the refs in our game calling everything. At least on us.

The good news is that we should expect a tight whistle. Barnes will have them ready for that surely. Then, if it’s not, we can adjust.
 
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The good news is that we should expect a tight whistle. Barnes will have them ready for that surely. Then, if it’s not, we can adjust.
At least now, we can fall back on a zone defense to protect some guys who might pick up a ticky tac foul or 2 and not sit them for almost an entire half of the game. Someone else brought up the TV schedule and the network desire to stay on schedule dictating how a game is officiated. Won't lie. I'm shocked we didn't have more foul calls vs Duke. Hope both those trends continue and the refs continue to swallow those whistles.
 
What's funny about all this is we've been hacked, pushed, grabbed, bumped, held, hammered, and beaten game after game after game ( started with KY). Now the guys start giving some of it back and all of a sudden the game is too physical.

It’s really a disservice to this team that Jay Bilas started the narrative against them. Did anyone else think, besides a couple of Plavsic fouls, that our game was particularly physical compared to the others this weekend?

I watched a lot of basketball in the last 5 days, and a lot of it was really physical…it’s just the way they’ve called it, so far.
 
It’s really a disservice to this team that Jay Bilas started the narrative against them. Did anyone else think, besides a couple of Plavsic fouls, that our game was particularly physical compared to the others this weekend?

I watched a lot of basketball in the last 5 days, and a lot of it was really physical…it’s just the way they’ve called it, so far.

It wasn't any more physical than a standard p5 game imo. Tennessee does a really good job at getting to spots, blocking shots and lateral movement at close proximity. Fau and fdu were not physical in their game because it was so fast. Alot of missed shots though. Uros box out was hard but I'm on the fence on calling it a foul in the first place. Let alone, dirty. The elbow is a standard move in basketball. You can argue a foul and I'm on board but the dude flopped heavy on that too so hard to call something dirty when the guy that fell was able to control where and how he fell. I think guys like Bilas and Seth are bitter and their fanboy showed in an ugly way.

I think the fau coach is trying to get whistles, which is a p**** move. If I'm an official assigned to the s16 game, I take that attempt at manipulation personally. You won't get whistles from me and I'll actively look to convince the others to let them play because it's tournament ball.
 
Mears used 1-3-1 but he didn't invent it. John Wooden used it extensively also. Wooden used it as a full court press that was very effective.
Coach Red Sarachek coached basketball at Yeshiva University in New York City from 1940-1969. He mentored a number of well-known coaches, including William “Red” Holzman who led the Knicks from 1967-1982. Sarachek is credited with the invention of the 1-3-1 half-court zone defense. Sarachek was known to constantly evolve and experiment with strategies and configurations and was the likely origin of a number of interesting basketball strategies.
 
Coach Red Sarachek coached basketball at Yeshiva University in New York City from 1940-1969. He mentored a number of well-known coaches, including William “Red” Holzman who led the Knicks from 1967-1982. Sarachek is credited with the invention of the 1-3-1 half-court zone defense. Sarachek was known to constantly evolve and experiment with strategies and configurations and was the likely origin of a number of interesting basketball strategies.
That guy sounds like a man after my own heart… I love growing and experimenting with what works in athletics…. I always bump heads with coaches that want to do it the way they were taught 30 years ago.
 
It’s sports…. You typically fail more times than you succeed…. Look at hitters in baseball….. They fail 15-16 times every 20 at bats. Rick Barnes has been successful enough in the regular season and in recruiting to want him to be our coach…. If he was more like the last four years at Texas then I may feel differently.
That makes absolutely no sense and is self-defeating.

"A season is a failure/unsuccessful unless he reaches the elite 8."
"He was also successful in the regular season when he never reached the elite 8."

By now I suspect you realize this and are just being stubborn.
 
Do you guys remember how excited we were around this time a few years ago when we were so hot in recruiting? Kamar Wilcoxson, Dylan Brooks, Terrance Williams, Julian Nixon, Mordecai McDaniels all jumping in the boat.

Most eventually decommitted.

None of them panned out at the schools they went to. A few are even lost in the portal. Nixon is at some JUCO and had no stats last year.

Following recruiting is stupid.

Yet I can’t quit it.
 
It’s really a disservice to this team that Jay Bilas started the narrative against them. Did anyone else think, besides a couple of Plavsic fouls, that our game was particularly physical compared to the others this weekend?

I watched a lot of basketball in the last 5 days, and a lot of it was really physical…it’s just the way they’ve called it, so far.
What I like physical wise from our guys was them literally breaking through screens/picks. There were no dancing around them. Our guys were running straight through them.
 
No sleep til Thursday!

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