Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[RudyVol]

That gimmick offense won 11 games, most of them quite convincingly, in the toughest conference. Is "gimmick" supposed to degrade the offense? Put whatever adjectives you'd like in front of it and I'll continue to enjoy the victories and cigars.

 

[BigSteve09]

 

[OptimusPrimerib]

In Klubniks defense he was a true freshman making his first official start I believe

2nd. Started the ACC Championship game vs UNC.

 

[TheRain]

If you believe these sort of things...

 

[Weezer]

If you believe these sort of things...

I bet giant moon spiders live in those caves.

 

[SSVol]

I bet giant moon spiders live in those caves.

Indeed. You'd think some of the tech people would actually watch some SciFi. Everyone knows how this "exploration" ends.

 

[TheRain]

That ain't it chief.

 

[TheRain]

We gonna win.

 

[RiseToTheTop]

That gimmick offense won 11 games, most of them quite convincingly, in the toughest conference. Is "gimmick" supposed to degrade the offense? Put whatever adjectives you'd like in front of it and I'll continue to enjoy the victories and cigars.

And what’s crazy is there’s parts of this offense we haven’t even seen

Haven’t seen much out of the tight ends in the true pass game or the RB pass game. Personnel is changing though so I think we will esp with teams seeing us multiple times now. Ethan Davis will eventually change all that and maybe the transfer. Dominating the middle of the field with them would take this thing up a few notches.

 

[MarcoVol]

In Klubniks defense he was a true freshman making his first official start I believe

I don’t understand the hype. He was way worse than DJ U in his first 2 career starts

 

[volfaninpa]

We gonna win.

Should I vote for UT in this poll or no?

 

[Ron Swanson]

I don’t understand the hype. He was way worse than DJ U in his first 2 career starts

Coaching. Luckily for Dabo he finally got smart, fired his OC, and hired a top dollar proven OC in the offseason.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

And what’s crazy is there’s parts of this offense we haven’t even seen

Haven’t seen much out of the tight ends in the true pass game or the RB pass game. Personnel is changing though so I think we will esp with teams seeing us multiple times now. Ethan Davis will eventually change all that and maybe the transfer. Dominating the middle of the field with them would take this thing up a few notches.

I'm interested in what we get out of McCallen Castles

He seems to be a better receiving TE than Warren or Fant. Based off his film at least. I know he caught a touchdown in a scrimmage already too.

 

[TheRain]

Should I vote for UT in this poll or no?

Sure, we're special and everyone knows it.

 

[MarcoVol]

Coaching. Luckily for Dabo he finally got smart, fired his OC, and hired a top dollar proven OC in the offseason.

He was being hyped up well before Dabo actually made a smart hire

 

[RiseToTheTop]

I'm interested in what we get out of McCallen Castles

He seems to be a better receiving TE than Warren or Fant. Based off his film at least. I know he caught a touchdown in a scrimmage already too.

I think so too.


I know Jim Nagy from Senior Bowl and ex NFL scout was super high on him when he saw he committed to us. Said he was a future NFL TE.

 

[Vol8188]

I don’t understand the hype. He was way worse than DJ U in his first 2 career starts

New QB always provides hope. Even when it shouldn’t. It’s the reason the backup is always so popular

 

[jakez4ut]

Austin Price wasn’t keen on promoting Pope and wanted Coach YAC back for RECRUITING purposes. I had a VQ subscription during that hiring process and exchanged differences of opinion with him on that. I wasn’t impressed with YAC as a coach OR recruiter from that limited trial and expressed that…he wasn’t gracious in return. Both he and Hubbs have expressed doubts about Ellarbee and I understand their concerns. I simply believe in him as a developer of talent and we haven’t witnessed a confirmed failure from anyone he’s brought in from two full recruiting classes. I’m waiting that out before changing my take that he’s our best OL coach since the best Fulmer seasons.

i think there's some other considerations to make here, regarding OL as well.

for one, system. tempo is not for every OLman. and some will still view it, right or wrong, as gimmicky and not the way to get to the NFL traditionally. hopefully with guys like Carvin and Wright making names for themselves, that'll start to turn.

i think, also, due to the system, you may not necessarily HAVE TO have blue chippers 3 deep on the roster. our run game is good but doesn't require the same consistent road grading measures some traditional offenses do, and pass protection is timing related (i'm speaking generally here, not getting in to a specific conversation about the merits of the system).

that's not to say you can plug a body in there and everything's aok. but it does allow you to hedge a bit if prospects you're evaluating possess traits necessary to perform in this system....though not necessarily the highest rated guys out there.

as with most OL, how a group of 5 works together as one is going to be the most important thing, and when we're doing the tempo thing, that' really matters.

 

[Ron Swanson]

He was being hyped up well before Dabo actually made a smart hire

Right. Because he was a 5 star QB. #1 QB in the country on several sites. QB’s haven’t been developed well at Clemson in a long time. Along with terrible play calling and game plans. They’ve relied on talent. It finally caught up to them.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

I thought

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I thought we would receive a bye into at least the semi-finals.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Austin Price wasn’t keen on promoting Pope and wanted Coach YAC back for RECRUITING purposes. I had a VQ subscription during that hiring process and exchanged differences of opinion with him on that. I wasn’t impressed with YAC as a coach OR recruiter from that limited trial and expressed that…he wasn’t gracious in return. Both he and Hubbs have expressed doubts about Ellarbee and I understand their concerns. I simply believe in him as a developer of talent and we haven’t witnessed a confirmed failure from anyone he’s brought in from two full recruiting classes. I’m waiting that out before changing my take that he’s our best OL coach since the best Fulmer seasons.

Elarbee is so underrated. Figured we would have higher commits from the results, but I do think he will coach them up. One of the coaches that I hope stays for a while

 

[johnfnkelly]

Elarbee is so underrated. Figured we would have higher commits from the results, but I do think he will coach them up. One of the coaches that I hope stays for a while

Feels like convincing 300lb kids to play in our offense is always going to be an uphill battle. Darnell potentially going first round should help a lot though.

 

[Glitch]

@Glitch is the root of most problems.

 

[volbeast33]

That gimmick offense won 11 games, most of them quite convincingly, in the toughest conference. Is "gimmick" supposed to degrade the offense? Put whatever adjectives you'd like in front of it and I'll continue to enjoy the victories and cigars.

Gimmick offense to me just means that it doesn’t translate well to the NFL which is true…. It’s a great college offense though.

 

[Glitch]

If you believe these sort of things...

That is so obviously a moon copperhead den. I ain't falling for that trick again. No sir.