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Volsdeep4 said:
Oh absolutely. Here’s the misconception. there are 9 concepts to a route tree; out, slant, comeback, curl, go, post, corner, dig, and flat.
Your article; “In fact, his route tree essentially was the following: go’s, slants, speed outs, comebacks, rounded digs/crossers, and WR screens.”
That article says he runs 6/7 of the 9. Which the other route are just extended versions of other he ran.

So really the only thing missed is corners, post (which we actually seen him run a lot), flat (which is just a a 3 yard out or in).
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but being good at running routes isn't about your ability to run to a spot and change your direction, I can do that easily, anyone can. If I describe a post route, you can easily go run it.

It's more about knowing when to run which routes based on the play call and the coverage without your qb having to tell you which one to run? That's the knock on Jalen, he never had to have that kind of training because Heupel doesn't run the telepathy type of offense where wr and qb have to diagnose the coverage and both come to the same conclusion about which route to run.
 
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jave36 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but being good at running routes isn't about your ability to run to a spot and change your direction, I can do that easily, anyone can. If I describe a post route, you can easily go run it.

It's more about knowing when to run which routes based on the play call and the coverage without your qb having to tell you which one to run? That's the knock on Jalen, he never had to have that kind of training because Heupel doesn't run the telepathy type of offense where wr and qb have to diagnose the coverage and both come to the same conclusion about which route to run.
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A lot of what they define as route running is really having the ability to run the same route different ways depending on coverage to get open the best way. If you’re running an out route but it’s soft zone, running and breaking an exact 90 degree angle only slows you down and gives the defender more time to react to beat you to the ball.
 
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Vols4us said:
This right here ^^^

The analysts contend the short hashmarks in the NFL reduce the angles and size of windows, which allows superior D players to cover and clog the passing lanes better. Personally, I think that is BS. The QB just needs to hit the window sooner as the receiver comes out of the break instead of waiting for it to be totally clean. Simply adjust the timing and have athletic receivers. The NFL polices the grabbing of WR's a lot better than the college game. That's exactly what UGA did to stop us and the SEC officials allowed (encouraged) to happen. Kirby did not try to hide it. If that had been called a few times in the first half, UGA would have needed to change their plan. Had it been a fair fight the results might have been much closer.

As an example, the NFL scouts and coaches saw it with Kelee Ringo. He did it all season. The officials looked the other way against us, but called it on him some the rest of the season. He dropped to #105 in the draft despite being a combine warrior that included a 4.36 40. He does not anticipate well, he reacts to every move when the WR comes out of his break. So he grabs to make up for it. That will get called much of the time in the NFL. He may have to convert to safety to find success.
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Exactly. I believe I read it or something where they said that Will Muschamp tells his CB’s to hold because he feels the refs won’t want to call it 20 times a game.
 
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jave36 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but being good at running routes isn't about your ability to run to a spot and change your direction, I can do that easily, anyone can. If I describe a post route, you can easily go run it.

It's more about knowing when to run which routes based on the play call and the coverage without your qb having to tell you which one to run? That's the knock on Jalen, he never had to have that kind of training because Heupel doesn't run the telepathy type of offense where wr and qb have to diagnose the coverage and both come to the same conclusion about which route to run.
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Everything I’ve heard is route tree (how to run routes). Not the actual route concept of crispness in and out of routes. If that was the case then yes he needs work on that. He releases from routes high, not very good at planting and running or stopping. But not many college WR are the best route runners going into the NFL
 
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😫I had a nightmare. Tennessee was playing. The announcers didn’t know where Joe was. Nico was being rushed into the game. We had about 5 players, and the other team had about 20. Nico was running around trying to find someone in orange, but nothing was working right. It looked like a long-legged JG back there with nobody helping. 😫😫😫
 
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Jackcrevol said:
Fellas, ladies. Made the mistake of posting in the FF last night, thinking it was the RF. Those damn buzzards!
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Jackcrevol said:
exactly. too often people find what they want to find, what follows their narrative. Humans are emotional creatures.

Perhaps my example was bad. My point was to think inductively versus how were taught.

My logic class in college was honestly the best class I ever took. Needless to say its a work in progress twp decades later 😂
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I took Logic in college also - I did because everyone said I’d never pass it! I made an A - and truth is it really was a good class for me.
 
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SmokinBob said:
I took Logic in college also - I did because everyone said I’d never pass it! I made an A - and truth is it really was a good class For me.
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Honestly considered auditing the class just to take it to the next level.

Teacher was a total horses ass inside the classroom, great guy outside. Really loud athiest who would start intentional arguments in class. He'd always start with 'you cant argue faith.'

Right, that's because it's not of this World. And, that gives me absolute confidence.
 
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If this has been posted before, forgive me. I would encourage any of you who have Hulu to check out the show "Algiers, America". Follows an Inner city New Orleans HS football team and what some of those kids go through on a daily basis. I have worked in a couple of rural, poor versions of similar type kids and it gives a great deal of insight on what some of these kids lives are like. As fans sometimes we only see them as statistics or cogs in a wheel.
 
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Big Orange#1 said:
Terrible for the accused who get their lives completely ruined by these evil lying wh*res. AND terrible for actual victims who will always have people not believe them because of the lying wh*res.
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If they did a proper investigation to start with rather than taking their word for it every single time would be a good start.
 
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