Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[peaygolf]

May 10th, 1940

Winston Churchill was appointed Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
On the same day.........German armies invaded Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and France.


Without a doubt..........Churchill and Stalin are the biggest influencers of WW2.

 

[bignewt]

May 10th, 1940

Winston Churchill was appointed Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
On the same day.........German armies invaded Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and France.


Without a doubt..........Churchill and Stalin are the biggest heroes of WW2.

Stalin? Better read that wiki page brah

 

[SweetasSoda]

Terrible for the accused who get their lives completely ruined by these evil lying wh*res. AND terrible for actual victims who will always have people not believe them because of the lying wh*res.

Yes, this makes actual victims not want to come forward.

 

[screenthis]

May 10th, 1940

Winston Churchill was appointed Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
On the same day.........German armies invaded Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and France.


Without a doubt..........Churchill and Stalin are the biggest heroes of WW2.

Churchill and Stalin don't belong together in that sentence. Stalin is likely burning in Hell as we speak....

 

[SweetasSoda]

If they did a proper investigation to start with rather than taking their word for it every single time would be a good start.

It’s almost like they have their mind made up to believe or not before they investigate then only look far enough to support what they believe.

 

[peaygolf]

Stalin? Better read that wiki page brah

Churchill and Stalin don't belong together in that sentence. Stalin is likely burning in Hell as we speak....

I'm NOT saying Stalin was a good man or person (Top 5 worst of all time,) but without the Soviet army, WW2 would have been vastly different. Stalin and his Army deserve a lot of the credit for helping defeat Nazi Germany. It gave the US and Brittan and chance to mobilize the Western Front.

 

[bignewt]

I'm NOT saying Stalin was a good man or person (Top 5 worst of all time,) but without the Soviet army, WW2 would have been vastly different. Stalin and his Army deserve a lot of the credit for helping defeat Nazi Germany. It gave the US and Brittan and chance to mobilize the Western Front.

Stalin deserves credit for just throwing millions onto the front lines? Stalin didn't do anything, the Soviet Army did.

 

[dwaugh]

One of the replies to ... wonder what it says?

Weve been trying to reach you about your chariot's extended warranty

"Drink more Ovaltine"

 

[Ten_Titans]

May 10th, 1940

Winston Churchill was appointed Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
On the same day.........German armies invaded Belgium, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and France.


Without a doubt..........Churchill and Stalin are the biggest heroes of WW2.

Stalin signing the German-Soviet pact was an act of evil and stupidity that surely disqualifies him from being a hero. It is often omitted from the history books that the invasion of Poland was a joint invasion that included the Soviets. So no, they don't get to be heros of anything.

 

[peaygolf]

Stalin deserves credit for just throwing millions onto the front lines? Stalin didn't do anything, the Soviet Army did.

Zhukov, and the counter offensive at Stalingrad, were instrumental in the war.
Stalin's Order 227. "Not one step back."

He sacrificed his people without any compassion, but without that, things could have been very different.
I shouldn't have used the word hero for him in my OP.

 

[peaygolf]

Stalin signing the German-Soviet pact was an act of evil and stupidity that surely disqualifies him from being a hero. It is often omitted from the history books that the invasion of Poland was a joint invasion that included the Soviets. So no, they don't get to be heros of anything.

Hero was the wrong word. That was my mistake.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Fellas, ladies. Made the mistake of posting in the FF last night, thinking it was the RF. Those damn buzzards!

What’s the FF?

 

[Jackcrevol]

What’s the FF?

 

[BigOrange15]

I'm NOT saying Stalin was a good man or person (Top 5 worst of all time,) but without the Soviet army, WW2 would have been vastly different. Stalin and his Army deserve a lot of the credit for helping defeat Nazi Germany. It gave the US and Brittan and chance to mobilize the Western Front.

The Soviets were also able to do what they were able to do on the Eastern Front, in large part because of the millions upon millions of tons of equipment and materiel sent to then from the US. Especially early on.

 

[Mike4Vols]

I'm NOT saying Stalin was a good man or person (Top 5 worst of all time,) but without the Soviet army, WW2 would have been vastly different. Stalin and his Army deserve a lot of the credit for helping defeat Nazi Germany. It gave the US and Brittan and chance to mobilize the Western Front.

Credit should only be given if the motives were pure and justified. Might doesn't make right. Stalin used superior forces to crush Germany not to help anybody else but for his own gain. In the process, he leveraged that victory to promote conspiracy theories and misinformation about Hitler's death, negotiate control of East Germany, and create an environment of secrecy and mistrust that lasted the next 45 years.

Truthfully, he would have been happy to sit on the sideline while Germany destroyed everybody else. Hitler was an idiot and kept poking the bear. Stalin is no hero and his actions weren't heroic.

Churchhill is the real hero for Westerners. He took a stand in Europe while America sat on the sidelines. His tactics and bravery kept the Germans at bay while the French rolled over played dead. It took OTHER idiots (the Japanese) poking us before we entered the war.

The nuclear bombs are another issue entirely. I can make a strong argument why the first bomb wasn't needed. The second bomb was unjustified and inhumane. And -- the dropping of those bombs initiated an arms race we still live with today. Nuclear weapons would have been an issue at some point but we lit a match under that timebomb.

 

[peaygolf]

Credit should only be given if the motives were pure and justified. Might doesn't make right. Stalin used superior forces to crush Germany not to help anybody else but for his own gain. In the process, he leveraged that victory to promote conspiracy theories and misinformation about Hitler's death, negotiate control of East Germany, and create an environment of secrecy and mistrust that lasted the next 45 years.

Truthfully, he would have been happy to sit on the sideline while Germany destroyed everybody else. Hitler was an idiot and kept poking the bear. Stalin is no hero and his actions weren't heroic.

Churchhill is the real hero for Westerners. He took a stand in Europe while America sat on the sidelines. His tactics and bravery kept the Germans at bay while the French rolled over played dead. It took OTHER idiots (the Japanese) poking us before we entered the war.

The nuclear bombs are another issue entirely. I can make a strong argument why the first bomb wasn't needed. The second bomb was unjustified and inhumane. And -- the dropping of those bombs initiated an arms race we still live with today. Nuclear weapons would have been an issue at some point but we lit a match under that timebomb.

You are correct........

I just add the Soviets for "Not Quitting." It looked bleak at Stalingrad. Most influential battle of WW2. JMO.
I have posted the word hero was wrong and changed it.........

 

[StoVol]

 

[Weezer]

You are correct........

I just add the Soviets for "Not Quitting." It looked bleak at Stalingrad. Most influential battle of WW2. JMO.
I have posted the word hero was wrong and changed it.........

It's not wrong to say we don't win without the Russians. If Germany hadn't had their forces divided as they were, we wouldn'y have been successful in pushing them back. Hitler's biggest mistake tactically was turning on Russia.

 

[volbeast33]

 

[Weezer]

Credit should only be given if the motives were pure and justified. Might doesn't make right. Stalin used superior forces to crush Germany not to help anybody else but for his own gain. In the process, he leveraged that victory to promote conspiracy theories and misinformation about Hitler's death, negotiate control of East Germany, and create an environment of secrecy and mistrust that lasted the next 45 years.

Truthfully, he would have been happy to sit on the sideline while Germany destroyed everybody else. Hitler was an idiot and kept poking the bear. Stalin is no hero and his actions weren't heroic.

Churchhill is the real hero for Westerners. He took a stand in Europe while America sat on the sidelines. His tactics and bravery kept the Germans at bay while the French rolled over played dead. It took OTHER idiots (the Japanese) poking us before we entered the war.

The nuclear bombs are another issue entirely. I can make a strong argument why the first bomb wasn't needed. The second bomb was unjustified and inhumane. And -- the dropping of those bombs initiated an arms race we still live with today. Nuclear weapons would have been an issue at some point but we lit a match under that timebomb.

Is Churchill the real hero? He was doing what he needed to do for survival. I have a hard time calling any politician a hero. Maybe that's just me. The real heroes were the soldiers who fought the battles.

Without the bomb, millions of more Allied lives are lost, and Russia enters the war with Japan, resulting in Japan being divided like Germany was.

 

[drvenner]

I can't be the only one who noticed that following a season when Bama lost two games in the final minute, dwarf Nickie pushed through a new rule to end games two minutes sooner. You can't make this stuff up.

Oh and he is pushing for a separate rule that would have made both opposing teams forfeit their wins over him.

What an awesome pioneer for player safety he is. We are lucky to have him.

 

[BigOrange15]

Is Churchill the real hero? He was doing what he needed to do for survival. I have a hard time calling any politician a hero. Maybe that's just me. The real heroes were the soldiers who fought the battles.

Without the bomb, millions of more Allied lives are lost, and Russia enters the war with Japan, resulting in Japan being divided like Germany was.

Maybe not THE hero but a unquestionably a hero. He gave them someone to rally around and helped forge a resilient national identity while under constant bombardment, standing nearly alone against a military that had just swept through Europe.

You are absolutely correct about the usage of the bomb, certainly in the amount of of lives lost. Japanese losses would have been catastrophic and it's possible their population would never have recovered from a full blown invasion of their country, based on the "fight until the last man, woman, and child" propaganda they had been bombarded with for the past decade. Not to mention the expected Allied losses.

 

[drvenner]

I will have to give that officer credit for drug testing him. Prolly be fired soon.

Have people noticed that when Bammers are pulled over at reckless speeds, trafficking amounts of dope, pills, scales, and guns, they are never tested?

I feel bad for those kids. Suffering without AC in the summertime. You need to ease up on Bama, man.

 

[drvenner]

Pregame batting practice rule…. What a bunch of nonsense

Heatherns.

 

[screenthis]

I'm NOT saying Stalin was a good man or person (Top 5 worst of all time,) but without the Soviet army, WW2 would have been vastly different. Stalin and his Army deserve a lot of the credit for helping defeat Nazi Germany. It gave the US and Brittan and chance to mobilize the Western Front.

Agreed though keep in mind that doesn't happen without massive material support from the U.S. and the west to help push Germany back. And then Russia's actions towards the end and after the war are, to put it mildly, poor.