Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[Vol423]

Vacated wins literally affects nobody, any place.

Give me 100 vacated wins and nothing else...done deal. In fact, just take all of our 15 year period up through Pruitt off the books

Yes. Just promise to erase those records from every online website as well. It would make it much easier to forget those dark days of the program.

 

[Orange.]

I should've asked book/movie. . .

There was a really good one I read and I can't think of the name. . . it's pretty popular too. . . "The _______" . . . I think Sean Connery was in the movie version. . .

Anyway, "To Kill a Mockingbird" has to be #1, right?

Edit: wasn't Connery, it was Gene Hackman and the book/movie was "The Chamber"

Plato's Apology [Defense Speech] of Socrates

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

So I guess we'll be at an 83-man roster cap for the next 5 seasons with the extra scholarship reductions. It ultimately affects how many we can recruit.

Pay for those two special team scholarships via NIL… Piece of cake.

 

[butchna]

Ultimate hat on the table…has he even visited?

 

[Vol423]

Didn't post it. It's just some well known sites.

But not sure why you think any org would release proprietary metrics. It would end their entire business. Others just duplicate it...then you don't exist. But they do release what...generally...goes into it.

Same as many other prop analytics.

Seems tough to disagree with their results. Hype is best? Check. Malzahn still stinks? Yup.

I'm not asking for them to release their proprietary metrics. I'm just asking them to label their damn data. "4-Year Prior" and "2-Year Average" don't tell me anything. For all I know, that could be the 4-Year Prior and 2-Year Average number of PTO days taken by the coaching staff of each team. Just explain the damn data set. That's not asking for much.

I'll also mention the fact that the difference between the 4-Year Prior coaching ranking and the 2-Year Average coaching ranking doesn't mean squat in measuring the performance of the current coach. If Pruitt and Butch had a combined 4-Year Prior coaching ranking of zero, that doesn't make Huepel any better of a coach. It also doesn't make the decision to hire him any better. It just makes the decision to have hung on to the prior coaches that much worse.

 

[TheRain]

 

[TheRain]

 

[Jimmy Football]

From the horse’s mouth. NCAA stuff has been an albatross around the staff’s neck.

 

[UTProf]

Ubben thinks we should've covered it up? Damn maybe he really does have an illegal elementary school cig business.

 

[SugarCC]

Tough day for the Plowman haters.

 

[Glitch]

Andy Staples talking through some Florida challenges

Anthony Richardson, Osiris Torrance, Gervon Dexter all went Pro. So you look around and ask "who are the scouts going to come see next year?"

Trevor Etienne is gonna be real good, but he's only gonna be a Sophomore. Montrell Johnson followed Napier to Florida from Louisiana, he might be one they come to see. Ricky Pearsall, the WR from Arizona State could be another one. But... who else?

Who are some of the other players? To this point none of the other players have really distinguished themselves. Maybe Jason Marshall, the corner. Other than that, it's not a long list.

When you do this for other teams, it's pretty easy. Georgia has guys, we know. Where does Florida rank vs teams like Tennessee and South Carolina? You're not overtaking Georgia, but the question is are you going to be behind Tennessee and South Carolina too? If so, that's going to be a problem (for Napier).

And now with Mertz... what were the other alternatives? Sam Hartman didn't choose Florida. Florida didn't take Austin Reed, from FL played QB at WKU, Florida didn't show interest so he stayed at WKU. They were after Tulane's QB, and he ended up staying. They also had a QB in their 2023 class, Rashada... anyway. The fact there was no alternative is scary. He's got experience, but it's not great experience. Jack Miller, once upon a time was supposed to be the next great QB at Ohio State. The door is close to being shut on him.

If Florida is giving up 30 points a game on defense again, which by the way their Defensive Coordinator went to the NFL. Not a lot of confidence.

Andy's only bright spot - DL Desmond Watson.

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Notes from his 2022 season: Made first career start at No. 11 Tennessee (Sept. 24) and recorded three tackles

 

[DarthVol1]

Don’t worry about evaluation time. That’s completely unenforceable.

The visit stuff is more than we had hoped for, but once you factor in time-served and spread the remainder over 5 yrs, it’s actually less than we’ve already been self-imposing. Annoying, but not that damaging.

The fine and other monetary penalties are outrageous. We’ll see what comes of that.

Key point about already self imposing. 98% of folks had no clue that has been going on all a long (reduced visits, etc). Spread over 5 years makes this all annoying but nothing that will cause the staff real issues to work around.

 

[Dooby15]

Small sample of how other teams fans are reacting. About what you would expect.

The last response isn’t wrong. Having a great year last year and being toward the top helps. Same reason Auburn skated through the Cam Newton stuff.

 

[Dooby15]

 

[Jackcrevol]

Lol don’t get it, I’ve never seen that show

Milk and Coffee, OMIGOD!! Its Milk and Coffee!!!

 

[volbeast33]

Ubben thinks we should've covered it up? Damn maybe he really does have an illegal elementary school cig business.

The one time I agree with Ubben.

 

[Orange.]

....deliver the money to the NCAA in a McDonalds bag.

Let's do this!

 

[VolNash17]

This kinda goes with my statement about an hour or so ago. I think recruiting is about to be really solid. Already has been considering the circumstances getting a top 10 haul for 23’ while under the cloud. Now top 10 will and should be routine from this point forward which will always give the Vols a shot

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Largest fine levied by the NCAA. They are hurting for money and said here is a less severe penalty but we want the money.

I can’t wait for them to be irrelevant soon.

Go Vols!

 

[Orange.]

Heup is the man. He speaks directly to recruits through whoever asks a question.

 

[UTgrad2015]

Biggest BOOM of all today… monkey = off back

 

[Orange.]

Largest fine levied by the NCAA. They are hurting for money and said here is a less severe penalty but we want the money.

I can’t wait for them to be irrelevant soon.

Go Vols!

Meet them in a restaurant and pay them in cash in McDonald's bags was the best suggestion. Bring a photographer.

 

[VolNash17]

Meet them in a restaurant and pay them in cash in McDonald's bags was the best suggestion.

Pay the fine in pennies

 

[BigSteve09]

I can almost see this perspective. Everyone knows that Bama and Georgia have gotten away with cheating to get where they are. Pruitt being too stupid to actually implement the Bama way of cheating is really just more proof IMO that they're allowed to get away with it. Saban and Kirby operate well-oiled cheating machines. Unfortunately, we hired the Cousin Goober of the bunch.

that is also why Kirby and Saban want to implement a salary cap. so they can put those stealth recruiting machines back to work under the table. the machines are useless to them if NIL remains the way it is.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Pay the fine in pennies