Recruiting Forum Football Talk VI

[GVol1966]

Y’all really going to worry about this when we have the #1 offense?

You gotta ask?
We had the #1 offense and still had morons complaining about the offense.

They said “ yeah but we could only get 14 on UGA “.
I’m like duh, nobody else could get more than 10 !
Morons

 

[Devo182]

lol wow

"Aight Bobby, I reworked your playbook to include the necessary 300 extra pages of different ways to run Student Body Left and Student Body Right. Let's go Bobb-o"

Petrino: "God I hate you jackass. Where's my hog? I quit"

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

And it's a knee jerk, lazy reaction.

I felt then, and I believe it's proven now, that that game was an anomaly. I believe the players were believing their hype, reading their press, and lost that focus and edge they had all season (because the talent wasn't there to sleep walk like Georgia could). They were listening to the coaches after that game and it showed.

The program will benefit long term from the learning lesson that game provided (from the humbling through humiliation)

The biggest reason for the collapse in that game besides the focus/lazy issue, was that SC completely threw out their playbook and went way off script...nobody saw that coming and it was such a huge change that they could not adjust in game.

 

[Devo182]

What time is kickoff this Saturday?

1:30. 2 hours before Vol Ball. We will be rewatching Game 1 (Ball St) via Freak's upload so we can all follow at the same pace. The first Saturday viewing of 11 (we only watch wins)

 

[Jackcrevol]

The biggest reason for the collapse in that game besides the focus/lazy issue, was that SC completely threw out their playbook and went way off script...nobody saw that coming and it was such a huge change that they could not adjust in game.

Everybody was expecting Sid Bream, and, instead got McGriff on a tear.

 

[Vols4us]

Y’all really going to worry about this when we have the #1 offense?

Worry - nope. The discussion was about Small versus Wright and what potentially losing Wright to the portal means.

Let's not kid ourselves. Opponents are spending a lot of time this offseason working on how to stop this scheme. We will not be able to outscore opponents consistently without a decent defense and an upgrade of talent in some key positions on O - one of which has to be RB.

My point is Sampson projects to be better than both and I hope that is what we see from all RB's going forward.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Worry - nope. The discussion was about Small versus Wright and what potentially losing Wright to the portal means.

Let's not kid ourselves. Opponents are spending a lot of time this offseason working on how to stop this scheme. We will not be able to outscore opponents consistently without a decent defense and an upgrade of talent in some key positions on O - one of which has to be RB.

My point is Sampson projects to be better than both and I hope that is what we see from all RB's going forward.

I think the reason for the RBs lower YPG this year was a result of DCs realizing that the running game is what really makes this offense work. I think several of them focused on it.

 

[TheMagnificantOne]

Thanks @Freak

 

[Devo182]

Worry - nope. The discussion was about Small versus Wright and what potentially losing Wright to the portal means.

Let's not kid ourselves. Opponents are spending a lot of time this offseason working on how to stop this scheme. We will not be able to outscore opponents consistently without a decent defense and an upgrade of talent in some key positions on O - one of which has to be RB.

My point is Sampson projects to be better than both and I hope that is what we see from all RB's going forward.

Like I heard they would after last year...after 3 seasons destroying it UCF...at Mizzou...and so on.

These guys had all the tape they could ever gather and yet we got better. There's no slowing this offense down, only we can to ourselves. There's no scheme to beat it, unless you just have an entire NFL defense, at home, and get really lucky how we punish ourselves via penalties and missing every single big play.

Otherwise...if you just miss one of those elements...you're f'n toast.

 

[butchna]

Like I heard they would after last year...after 3 seasons destroying it UCF...at Mizzou...and so on.

These guys had all the tape they could ever gather and yet we got better. There's no slowing this offense down, only we can to ourselves. There's no scheme to beat it, unless you just have an entire NFL defense, at home, and get really lucky how we punish ourselves via penalties and missing every single big play.

Otherwise...if you just miss one of those elements...you're f'n toast.

People acting like we've seen the full playbook.

 

[Weezer]

I recognize obvious improvement in the stat that matters, and don't be a jackass, of course I want them to be better, but I ain't going to bitch about it all day every day.

I think the young guys will come in and help, and the defense will at least be static this year. If we can finish 4th in PPG again, then we will win 9-11 games.

I think the defense could be scary good in a couple of years...it doesn't have to happen overnight.

I'm of the opinion it needs to be fixed as quickly as possible. Why would we not want that?

 

[Glitch]

Hope Bru McCoy comes back. . .

 

[Devo182]

I think the reason for the RBs lower YPG this year was a result of DCs realizing that the running game is what really makes this offense work. I think several of them focused on it.

It was because we literally ran fewer times per game About 4.25 fewer carry attempts/game.

Our rushing efficiency actually went up.

Only Small took a step back, because he played injured literally all year.

Wright....Hooker both improved bigly...Sampson killed it at 6.8 ypc.

We also didn't have a full-time Evans caliber runner tbh. Sampson will be that guy real soon though.

We ran fewer times and passed more times per game. Not too surprising giving the massive trust in Hooker...and he killed it

 

[GiggerVol]

Yet according to AP, we're not looking for secondary help from the portal. That means it rests on the freshmen to fix our secondary. That's a lot to ask of freshmen.

Not only the freshmen, there's a few returning secondary guys who played decent when healthy. You could see some improvement as the year progressed.

 

[GiggerVol]

I have a feeling the secondary is going to look a lot better next year. For one, I really like the DB's we have coming in, but more importantly I think the pass rush is going to take a leap next year. Byron Young is gone, but Baron/Harrison will progress a bit, Pearce/Josephs looked really good in limited time that should increase, and who knows what might be added by Herring/Bradley/Weathersby. Add in one more year of comfort in Banks' scheme and one more year of Garner development to that and that can cover a lot of the secondary's weaknesses.

You forgot about Tyree West and also add in Bradley as well.

 

[Devo182]

Not only the freshmen, there's a few returning secondary guys who played decent when healthy. You could see some improvement as the year progressed.

Hard to see progress when you actually believe we had one the the worst secondaries in FBS As ole Wheezy does.

When we literally ranked 59th and 66th in the 2 best efficiency metrics. Average...yes. Not even close to the bottom...about 60 spots away.

 

[Weezer]

Worry - nope. The discussion was about Small versus Wright and what potentially losing Wright to the portal means.

Let's not kid ourselves. Opponents are spending a lot of time this offseason working on how to stop this scheme. We will not be able to outscore opponents consistently without a decent defense and an upgrade of talent in some key positions on O - one of which has to be RB.

My point is Sampson projects to be better than both and I hope that is what we see from all RB's going forward.

There will be teams that have a good enough defense to slow this offense down. It's what Georgia did this year. We have to have a good enough defense to slow other offenses down as well. More teams will follow Georgia's example and gameplan this offense well in advance of the actual game.

 

[Vols4us]

With the secondary, as already posted the pass rush is improving. That helps big time.

We lose nobody that actually played in the secondary against #7 Clemson. They had a few weeks to get healthier and work on things. The same Clemson that put up 39 points on UNC in their conference championship using the same QB. We gave up 320 yds on 56 passing attempts not counting plays with sacks and with 2 picks.

The complaints are mostly about USCe, Bama to some degree, the UF late flurry of points. They kept it in the 20s on points or less for the other 10 games. That experience coming back on the back end while blending in the young guys is all we need to win big next season if the O continues to deliver the points with low turnovers. Less injuries in the secondary would be nice along w d-backs learning to turn and look for the ball.

 

[Vol423]

I recognize obvious improvement in the stat that matters, and don't be a jackass, of course I want them to be better, but I ain't going to bitch about it all day every day.

...but it's the Off-Season!!!

 

[Orange.]

@Freak appears to have the Orange Bowl replay working! #12

 

[Devo182]

Webb telescope caught 2 galaxies colliding. Looks a spiral galaxy and well...what's left of another. This is 500 million light years away aka it happened 500 million years ago.

Wonder what'd it look like today? Fascinating stuff.

 

[Vols4us]

I think the reason for the RBs lower YPG this year was a result of DCs realizing that the running game is what really makes this offense work. I think several of them focused on it.

100% agree. You could see the focus by the d-scheme each used. Kirby had the best design. He knew the SEC would make sure the holding of receivers would be ignored, so he could go man and have more guys around the box.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Well, Erik Ainge got exactly what he wanted. Attention.

 

[Orange.]

Tired of Ainge doing this

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

Go to gettyimages.com and search "orange bowl game"
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Who were the halftime show performers? They were gawdawful. They were so bad.