Recruiting Forum: Football Talk XI

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Sorry guys...I'm delirious, two sick little girls have kept me up all week. Thankfully, looks like both are getting better but mom and dad look like we could be cast in "The Walking Dead" and not need any makeup.

Ahhh, parenthood.
 
#30
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So... it looks as though I'll be taking my talents to Knoxville to participate in the alumni game at UT's spring game!! Fun fun
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So that Butch Jones guy...he may get it. Alumni game during the O&W? Yes please.
 
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#31
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wU-Tang Vol said:
NCAA proposing a rule that you have to wait at least ten seconds before you can snap the ball. Rule would not apply under 2 minutes. Would really hurt fast paced offenses, including ourselves. Just an idiotic rule imo. There is no reason for it. Probably just from whining from old school coaches who have no idea how to defend it
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One argument I heard against this rule was that if not many teams snap the ball in that 10 second window then why make a rule to regulate it? The common answer is to give teams (i.e Alabama, Arkansas, etc.) who don't "like" playing against speed offenses time to make substitutions. It gives an unfair competitive advantage to the defense.

This rule is like saying since 5 cars on the interstate are going faster than everyone else then we should lower the speed limit 10 miles per hour for everyone's safety, it makes no sense.

While they are at it, lets put weight limits on DT's and LB's can only run so fast....:hi:
 
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Just finished reading X and the last post was a horrible way for a good thread to go out. Poor X deserves better than that.
 
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pierce60 said:
One argument I heard against this rule was that if not many teams snap the ball in that 10 second window then why make a rule to regulate it? The common answer is to give teams (i.e Alabama, Arkansas, etc.) who don't "like" playing against speed offenses time to make substitutions. It gives an unfair competitive advantage to the defense.

This rule is like saying since 5 cars on the interstate are going faster than everyone else then we should lower the speed limit 10 miles per hour for everyone's safety, it makes no sense.

While they are at it, lets put weight limits on DT's and LB's can only run so fast....:hi:
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The weight limits and speed thing would be BIASED against Bama :no:
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orangeblood79 said:
Sorry guys...I'm delirious, two sick little girls have kept me up all week. Thankfully, looks like both are getting better but mom and dad look like we could be cast in "The Walking Dead" and not need any makeup.

Ahhh, parenthood.
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I'm glad to hear they are getting well, and kudos to you and your wife for caring for them. I know they are your responsibility, but it never hurts to pass on a modicum of praise to a weary parent. :good!:
 
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Ridiculous, might as well tie one arm behind each offensive player's back! BTW, shut tah hell up, saban ! :crazy:
 
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pierce60 said:
One argument I heard against this rule was that if not many teams snap the ball in that 10 second window then why make a rule to regulate it? The common answer is to give teams (i.e Alabama, Arkansas, etc.) who don't "like" playing against speed offenses time to make substitutions. It gives an unfair competitive advantage to the defense.

This rule is like saying since 5 cars on the interstate are going faster than everyone else then we should lower the speed limit 10 miles per hour for everyone's safety, it makes no sense.

While they are at it, lets put weight limits on DT's and LB's can only run so fast....:hi:
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I would think that the teams that run the "high speed" offenses will have an assistant coach or GA that watches who the defense runs in and immediately shoot 4 or 5 subs in and quickly line up and run a play before the defense can even figure out what they've done. Bammer's Satan and Arky's Bulimia will then demand a change that offenses have to give the defense 10 seconds to run players in no matter how much time is on the play clock and that if less than 10 seconds is left then the offense gets a Delay of Game penalty. The rules will always have to be in Satan's favor. I'm sure that his next move will be to ask for two extra players for his team on defense. It's always about what's best for Nicky!
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Rashaan Evans says backlash bad since committing to Alabama Crimson Tide over hometown Auburn Tigers - ESPN

Vol fans would never do this... would they? :question:
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That was one of the worst stories I have read in quite a while. Auburn fans trying to crumble his parents business and not serve them at restaurants too. What a joke? It makes the whole community look bad even though a minority are causing the problem. I hope the kid has a wonderful career (except vs UT).
 
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wU-Tang Vol said:
NCAA proposing a rule that you have to wait at least ten seconds before you can snap the ball. Rule would not apply under 2 minutes. Would really hurt fast paced offenses, including ourselves. Just an idiotic rule imo. There is no reason for it. Probably just from whining from old school coaches who have no idea how to defend it
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NCAA just kissing Nick Saban's backside. :banghead2:
 
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WriterVol said:
I'm glad to hear they are getting well, and kudos to you and your wife for caring for them. I know they are your responsibility, but it never hurts to pass on a modicum of praise to a weary parent. :good!:
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Gracias, compadre!
 
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pierce60 said:
One argument I heard against this rule was that if not many teams snap the ball in that 10 second window then why make a rule to regulate it? The common answer is to give teams (i.e Alabama, Arkansas, etc.) who don't "like" playing against speed offenses time to make substitutions. It gives an unfair competitive advantage to the defense.

This rule is like saying since 5 cars on the interstate are going faster than everyone else then we should lower the speed limit 10 miles per hour for everyone's safety, it makes no sense.

While they are at it, lets put weight limits on DT's and LB's can only run so fast....:hi:
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i agree on not liking the rule

not sure i understand the analogy - isnt that exactly what we do with speed limits? i wouldnt drive 100 either way b/c it is dangerous, and I am sure most are that way - but some would go at really high speeds so we put a speed limit on the road to stop those few - am i missing something there?
 
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Time to get XI started off on the right note.

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Sorry to distract from any miscellaneous philosophical ramblings, but I thought some people might like to know what the UT football coach had to say about the proposed rule changes:

Before offering a concrete opinion, Tennessee coach Butch Jones said he wants to further research a newly proposed NCAA football rule that would allow a defense to substitute in the first 10 seconds of a 40-second play clock even if the offense doesn’t substitute.

"I’d like to have research and data before altering and changing the rules of the game," Jones told WNML radio in an exclusive interview earlier today. "I want to see data produced from an injury standpoint. I don’t want opinion. I want facts and figures. Show me the numbers."

Some coaches – including Alabama’s Nick Saban and Arkansas’ Bret Bielema -- have argued that the hurry up offense is a safety concern for players. The more snaps, the more chance for injury. Jones isn’t so sure. He said he’s been a part of teams running a hurry-up offense since 2001 and he’s not seen an uptick in injuries in the last 20-25 plays of a game during that 12-year span.

"I don’t think it comes down to a matter of safety," Jones said. "It’s a matter of personal preference. Every program has a style of play, just like every basketball team, from pressing to pushing the ball down the court. Same thing in football. That’s what makes this game; the strategy that goes behind it."

Many argue that defensive players exert more energy than offensive players because defenders are taught to run to the football. Jones doesn’t buy it.

"The way we play offense, we expect our guys to run to the football as well," Jones said. "We expect our offensive linemen to sprint to the football as well."

Jones said he’s concerned that the substitution proposal is an attempt "to slow the game down a bit." But he added: "I don’t know if it will affect the game that much."

Jones said he thinks a hurry-up offense can be an equalizer for teams that don’t have as much talent as their opponents.

"A lot more things need to be addressed with player safety than up-tempo offense," Jones said. "Let’s concern ourselves with real hard facts in moving the game forward."

Jones does favor a proposal in which if replay shows a targeting foul that led to an ejection is reversed, the penalty can also be nullified.

"I think it will be beneficial," Jones said. "It’s really hard to tell your player, `you know what, you made a good play and it wasn’t a penalty, but they’re still giving you a penalty."
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NashVOL93 said:
Sorry to distract from any miscellaneous philosophical ramblings, but I thought some people might like to know what the UT football coach had to say about the proposed rule changes:
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Yeah, Saban of all people arguing for 'player safety' is the biggest joke in the history of jokes.
 
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The rate of play is a lot less hazardous to an 18 year old's health than football making it so kids need to be 340 lbs to play DT... No human should have to weigh that much. That's gonna lead to health problems.
 
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volssam said:
Yeah all those "medical" shirts and releases and such are all for the sake of player safety. Duh
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Seriously, whenever Saban mentions anything about 'player safety', someone needs to ask him about the convulsing linesman he STEPPED OVER AND DIDN'T SO MUCH AS ACKNOWLEDGE in Miami.
 
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On possibly cancelling Junior Day this weekend...

It's very unlikely they are going to cancel it now. Sun is shining in Knoxville and weather is good through the weekend.

We will have a list of guys that are expected in this weekend in the War Room. It's not a big list, but there are some good players expected in this weekend.
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-Fortenberry
 
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