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Ericvol2096 said:
ESPN has redone their 2015 rankings.

Notables

Gibson - 12
Settle - 15
Tuttle - 31
Williams - 33
McKenzie - 37
Richmond - 65
Butcher - 68
Abernathy - 92
J. Jones - 110
DeBerry - 118
Phillips - 162
Jefferson - 170
Jennings - 184
Sapp - 193
Love - 208
Walker - 222
Ordaway - 259

Not unlikely that we have 11 top 300 players by October
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Lol at McKenzie under Settle
 
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seaofORANGE22 said:
Malik Foreman is also in the mix at that other corner spot.

This is going to be the year that we build our depth. Young guys thrown in the fire. We'll make plenty of mistakes. But we'll reap the benefits of it 2 and 3 years down the road. We will most likely be a well oiled machine by then.

:) go vols
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Agreed! I also think McNeil will at least start the season at S. The freshmen will provide great depth and competition, but it's really difficult for a newbie to unseat a seasoned upperclassman. Same for Coleman. Now midway through the season who knows!
 
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Article on VQ.... Breakdown of Utah State

Defensively, the Aggies run a 3-4 defense. They return 1 guy on the DL who started a year ago.... BJ Larson. He's 6'5 and 275 lbs. He was a 2nd team All Conference player last year. Jordan Nielson, 6'5 and 265 lbs will man the other end position. And Ricky Ali'fua will be the NT at 6'3 and 275 lbs.

The Aggies lost their 2 top tacklers on the DL last season. However, they did sign quite a few Juco DL in the '14 class to provide some depth.

As you see they are not big at all, but they are athletic. I expect our guards to get a good push. Thomas and Blair will be tested immediately.

Onto the LBs...

Gone is Jake Doughty who amassed 148 tackles last year. They do return their 3 other starting LBs from a year ago. Zach Vigil will take over in the middle. He had 124 tackles last year. Their "Jack" guy is Kyler Fackrell (6'5 and 245 lbs). He will apply the pressure off the edge.

They also lost 3 starters in their secondary. The Aggies' team defense ranked close to the top 10 in every statistical defensive category from a year ago.

Next is the offense....

We all know about Chuckie Keeton and what he's capable of. He has thrown for over 5,900 yards and ran for over 1,100 yards while tallying over 70 TDs in his career thus far. He had a major knee injury last year and this will be his first chance to knock the rust off.

However, Keeton won't have the usual protection and weapons that he's accustomed to having. Utah State has lost 4 starting OL and a valuable 2nd team OL from a year ago. Gone are their top 2 tailbacks. Their leading returning rusher, Joe Hill, missed the last 9 games of the season with a bad knee injury.

At Wide Receiver, it doesn't get any better. Gone are Travis Van Leewen and Travis Reynolds. Last year combined, they caught over 100 receptions to go with nearly 1,500 yards. Their return WR is Jo Jo Natson (5'7 and 151 lbs). He's their do-it-all guy. He'll line up in the slot, RB, and even at Wildcat. However, he's not that explosive. He averages less than 7 yards per catch and less than 4 yards per rush.

They have 2 other guys at WR that played sparingly throughout the whole year. One guy, Brandon Swindall, (6'4) caught 6 red zone TD passes last year. He will obviously have a larger role this year.

My pre Fall Camp prediction:

38-17 Vols
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
ESPN has redone their 2015 rankings.

Notables

Gibson - 12
Settle - 15
Tuttle - 31
Williams - 33
McKenzie - 37
Richmond - 65
Butcher - 68
Abernathy - 92
J. Jones - 110
DeBerry - 118
Phillips - 162
Jefferson - 170
Jennings - 184
Sapp - 193
Love - 208
Walker - 222
Ordaway - 259

Not unlikely that we have 11 top 300 players by October
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Settle at 15?!?!?!?! Even I saw at the Opening he was the worst one out there.
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
Article on VQ.... Breakdown of Utah State

...They also lost 3 starters in their secondary. The Aggies' team defense ranked close to the top 10 in every statistical defensive category from a year ago.
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Saw a guy on the TSR text box point out that former Vol Daniel Grey projected to start at corner for the Aggies
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
Article on VQ.... Breakdown of Utah State

Defensively, the Aggies run a 3-4 defense. They return 1 guy on the DL who started a year ago.... BJ Larson. He's 6'5 and 275 lbs. He was a 2nd team All Conference player last year. Jordan Nielson, 6'5 and 265 lbs will man the other end position. And Ricky Ali'fua will be the NT at 6'3 and 275 lbs.

The Aggies lost their 2 top tacklers on the DL last season. However, they did sign quite a few Juco DL in the '14 class to provide some depth.

As you see they are not big at all, but they are athletic. I expect our guards to get a good push. Thomas and Blair will be tested immediately.

Onto the LBs...

Gone is Jake Doughty who amassed 148 tackles last year. They do return their 3 other starting LBs from a year ago. Zach Vigil will take over in the middle. He had 124 tackles last year. Their "Jack" guy is Kyler Fackrell (6'5 and 245 lbs). He will apply the pressure off the edge.

They also lost 3 starters in their secondary. The Aggies' team defense ranked close to the top 10 in every statistical defensive category from a year ago.

Next is the offense....

We all know about Chuckie Keeton and what he's capable of. He has thrown for over 5,900 yards and ran for over 1,100 yards while tallying over 70 TDs in his career thus far. He had a major knee injury last year and this will be his first chance to knock the rust off.

However, Keeton won't have the usual protection and weapons that he's accustomed to having. Utah State has lost 4 starting OL and a valuable 2nd team OL from a year ago. Gone are their top 2 tailbacks. Their leading returning rusher, Joe Hill, missed the last 9 games of the season with a bad knee injury.

At Wide Receiver, it doesn't get any better. Gone are Travis Van Leewen and Travis Reynolds. Last year combined, they caught over 100 receptions to go with nearly 1,500 yards. Their return WR is Jo Jo Natson (5'7 and 151 lbs). He's their do-it-all guy. He'll line up in the slot, RB, and even at Wildcat. However, he's not that explosive. He averages less than 7 yards per catch and less than 4 yards per rush.

They have 2 other guys at WR that played sparingly throughout the whole year. One guy, Brandon Swindall, (6'4) caught 6 red zone TD passes last year. He will obviously have a larger role this year.

My pre Fall Camp prediction:

38-17 Vols
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Sounds like peanuts will be eaten in abundance. :)
 
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I might be dreaming this, but did I see somewhere that we might be trying to get some Jordan brand equipment for the basketball teams? And maybe even football?
 
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I am getting more and more excited about Utah State.

Exceedingly winnable, very good chance our playmakers (on both sides of the ball) recognize that USU is better than a lot of opening "cupcake" teams so they step up and get into a groove, and Utah State's defense seems talented enough to test our tackles (and they need to be tested). I expect us to be able to do mostly whatever we want on the ground, big games from Lane and Hurd, but more importantly "StartingQB" may be able to get into a good passing rhythm and hit some over-the-top throws.

I'm not terribly worried about Chuckie. I think we can stay in a 4-3 and keep up with him. Bates and JRM will contain him rather easily, and Curt 'n Corey will be after him from the first snap. I'm not predicting it to catapult us into a great, surprising season, but I think it will be a nice coming out party with a lot of people watching on a Sunday evening.
 
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005 said:
I am getting more and more excited about Utah State.

Exceedingly winnable, very good chance our playmakers (on both sides of the ball) recognize that USU is better than a lot of opening "cupcake" teams so they step up and get into a groove, and Utah State's defense seems talented enough to test our tackles (and they need to be tested). I expect us to be able to do mostly whatever we want on the ground, big games from Lane and Hurd, but more importantly "StartingQB" may be able to get into a good passing rhythm and hit some over-the-top throws.
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We have 3 legit guys who can beat you over the top with North, Von, and Malone. Croom is a red zone threat. Then Pig, Josh Smith, and Jonathan Johnson have nice roles in the slot.

Utah State better have some kind of pass rush, because their back end will implode.
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
We have 3 legit guys who can beat you over the top with North, Von, and Malone. Croom is a red zone threat. Then Pig, Josh Smith, and Jonathan Johnson have nice roles in the slot.

Utah State better have some kind of pass rush, because their back end will implode.
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I think we will really, really stress their defense, because I think we'll do what we want in the run game.
 
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TriCitiesVol said:
Article on VQ.... Breakdown of Utah State

Defensively, the Aggies run a 3-4 defense. They return 1 guy on the DL who started a year ago.... BJ Larson. He's 6'5 and 275 lbs. He was a 2nd team All Conference player last year. Jordan Nielson, 6'5 and 265 lbs will man the other end position. And Ricky Ali'fua will be the NT at 6'3 and 275 lbs.

The Aggies lost their 2 top tacklers on the DL last season. However, they did sign quite a few Juco DL in the '14 class to provide some depth.

As you see they are not big at all, but they are athletic. I expect our guards to get a good push. Thomas and Blair will be tested immediately.

Onto the LBs...

Gone is Jake Doughty who amassed 148 tackles last year. They do return their 3 other starting LBs from a year ago. Zach Vigil will take over in the middle. He had 124 tackles last year. Their "Jack" guy is Kyler Fackrell (6'5 and 245 lbs). He will apply the pressure off the edge.

They also lost 3 starters in their secondary. The Aggies' team defense ranked close to the top 10 in every statistical defensive category from a year ago.

Next is the offense....

We all know about Chuckie Keeton and what he's capable of. He has thrown for over 5,900 yards and ran for over 1,100 yards while tallying over 70 TDs in his career thus far. He had a major knee injury last year and this will be his first chance to knock the rust off.

However, Keeton won't have the usual protection and weapons that he's accustomed to having. Utah State has lost 4 starting OL and a valuable 2nd team OL from a year ago. Gone are their top 2 tailbacks. Their leading returning rusher, Joe Hill, missed the last 9 games of the season with a bad knee injury.

At Wide Receiver, it doesn't get any better. Gone are Travis Van Leewen and Travis Reynolds. Last year combined, they caught over 100 receptions to go with nearly 1,500 yards. Their return WR is Jo Jo Natson (5'7 and 151 lbs). He's their do-it-all guy. He'll line up in the slot, RB, and even at Wildcat. However, he's not that explosive. He averages less than 7 yards per catch and less than 4 yards per rush.

They have 2 other guys at WR that played sparingly throughout the whole year. One guy, Brandon Swindall, (6'4) caught 6 red zone TD passes last year. He will obviously have a larger role this year.

My pre Fall Camp prediction:

38-17 Vols
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When people start calling for the upset, I don't think they realize what Utah State lost as well. You see their results last year and ours, and people think it can be an upset. I had already heard they almost lost their entire OL like us, and I knew their defense was simply not as big. Their one big and important returning player is also the one recovering from a mid-season ACL tear. I expect us to be able to do almost whatever we want on offense. They may score some on our young defense. JMO.
 
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JamesBenUT said:
@Volquest_Paul: The first 16 5-Stars for the class of 2016 have been released and the Vols have several targets in the group: https://t.co/XVwQItw2zT
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"Several Tennessee targets on the list including Rahshaun 'Shaq' Smith and Levonta Taylor, both of whom were on campus this summer. Tennessee are real players for both right now. The list also includes defensive tackles Rashan Gary and Dexter Lawrence, both of whom the Vols are after."

-Fortenberry
 
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Their offensive line was abysmal in pass protection last year and they lose almost all of them. Looking forward to Vereen and Maggitt applying pressure off the edge
 
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