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eazyTD said:
He was accused of sexual assault. Butch suspended him while they investigated, hence why he missed the last 4 spring practices and the O&W game. After the findings or lack there of, the girl decided not to press charges and Lane was reinstated back with the team.

Where's the problem?
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This... It's such a nonstarter.... Talk about digging deep for a story... Her headline was worse than the article.... Acting like TN didn't do anything... Yemi was kicked out of school and lane was suspended until no charges were made. Butch was ready to kick him off if it was true. He suspended him immediately. What the heck does she think we are going to do? Scream to everyone about it and ruin kids image when the girl obviously didn't find it serious enough to press charges? No nobody does that because most of this cases end up being an embarrassed girl that doesn't want to be consider a freak nasty
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Oh, stop. Do you know how many tape victims drop charges out of fear or embarrassment?
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Going to someone's room at 3:00 am from a bar was a bad decision on the woman's part. Admitting that she had a relationship with one of the men before and did again that night and in front of another man was a bad decision on her part. The embarrassment she feared was for her from her family. The second man should have been smart enough to get away from the other two people any way he could even though they were in his apartment. It doesn't matter if the two men were non-athletes but two computer nerds they should have not got involved in this type situation.
From what I've read to this point the coaching staff let the proper officials from the university handle this before they made any moves for those involved.
 
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I try to be ethically and morally consistent and this Lane story is really bothering me. The timing of it coming out (Vandy case) and parallels the author tries to paint in it set off my spidey senses. The whole thing smacks of yellow journalism. Lane's never been worth covering up for, he was suspended, there was investigation, and the girl for whatever reason decided not to press charges. The author makes Vandy out to be a swift enactor of justice while implying UT covered things up yet Vandy didn't immediately boot the players and it was ages before their names were known - Vanderbilt didn't speak their names and IIRC there was some question of whether or not SEC Media days would reveal things because they would be forced to reveal their roster. It was anything but swift.

I don't know what Lane did or didn't do (if he did do something he should be gone). However, I do know that pretending Vanderbilt handled it better is BS and pretending that UT covered it up is BS.

Whatever else is going on, there's something wrong with this story and its presentation.
 
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UTProf said:
I try to be ethically and morally consistent and this Lane story is really bothering me. The timing of it coming out (Vandy case) and parallels the author tries to paint in it set off my spidey senses. The whole thing smacks of yellow journalism. Lane's never been worth covering up for, he was suspended, there was investigation, and the girl for whatever reason decided not to press charges. The author makes Vandy out to be a swift enactor of justice while implying UT covered things up yet Vandy didn't immediately boot the players and it was ages before their names were known - Vanderbilt didn't speak their names and IIRC there was some question of whether or not SEC Media days would reveal things because they would be forced to reveal their roster. It was anything but swift.

I don't know what Lane did or didn't do (if he did do something he should be gone). However, I do know that pretending Vanderbilt handled it better is BS and pretending that UT covered it up is BS.

Whatever else is going on, there's something wrong with this story and its presentation.
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Most schools would have done the same thing if the victim/s didn't press charges or speak to the media. Especially if nothing comes out of said investigation. It's a hot topic though for many good reasons and we just became added fodder for the talking heads. Seemingly now the victims are speaking possibly spurred by events at other schools.
 
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DD4ME said:
Most schools would have done the same thing if the victim/s didn't press charges or speak to the media. Especially if nothing comes out of said investigation. It's a hot topic though for many good reasons and we just became added fodder for the talking heads. Seemingly now the victims are speaking possibly spurred by events at other schools.
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That's what I logically think as well but at the same time I don't want to fall into the trap of trying to rationalize things away just because this happens to be my university. I just don't see any logical consistency and evidence for what the author is implying.
 
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Yea guess I will find something to do until 2:30. It looks like snow is falling in Mid to East TN according to my weather app.
 
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#9,848
Regarding the Marlin Lane situation:

I acknowledge the point of view that a few of you want Lane kicked off of the team for the incident because you don't want UT athletics represented by a rapist. Here's the thing: until Marlin Lane is convicted, he can't be considered a rapist. He wasn't convicted; he wasn't even formally charged.

Presumpton of Innocence is a tenet on which this country was founded. Yes, this can lead to muddy waters, particularly in the case of rape. You do have women who are raped and then silenced, whether it be out of fear or shame. But the fact is, it's a violation of Marlin Lane's aforementioned human right to the Presumption of Innocence to assume that he's out of those outliers - that he's one of the rapists who will never be convicted.

'Rape' is a word that we never want to hear, and we certainly never want to hear it in association with our players or our university. But without sufficient evidence of wrongdoing, it would have been wrong of the administration to dismiss Lane, just as it's wrong to assume as fans that he's guilty.

As near as we can tell (and admittedly there's a lack of public information here, so I'm making a few educated guesses), Lane was suspended as soon as the staff became aware of the circumstances, and then reinstated as soon as there were no charges pressed and no damning evidence presented. If those admitted assumptions are correct, then I believe the staff handled this exactly as they should have.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
This... It's such a nonstarter.... Talk about digging deep for a story... Her headline was worse than the article.... Acting like TN didn't do anything... Yemi was kicked out of school and lane was suspended until no charges were made. Butch was ready to kick him off if it was true. He suspended him immediately. What the heck does she think we are going to do? Scream to everyone about it and ruin kids image when the girl obviously didn't find it serious enough to press charges? No nobody does that because most of this cases end up being an embarrassed girl that doesn't want to be consider a freak nasty
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I'm actually proud of the staff and the Knoxville PD for keeping this quiet while this matter was looked into. This is the type of thing that shouldn't be leaked until there are at least some facts discovered because rape is a very nasty thing and even just being accused of it can ruin someone.

I'll put it like this...I think rapists are right behind child molesters as the most vile, evil scum to walk the planet. It's absolutely disgusting and I'll never understand what a person's thought process must be while committing these heinous crimes. That being said, there are far too many times that women like to get down and act like hoes with someone with a public image and then cry rape so they can get some money or something out of it.

Just look at Kobe Bryant. That woman nearly destroyed his public image, marriage and career. Even though he clearly didn't rape her, it's took him YEARS to put that behind him and get away from that stigma.

Just by being accused of rape and it being made public wouldve unfairly followed Lane for a while. Good job Butch, UT and everyone involved.
 
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