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#4,176
Gary Russell Jr. is the real future of boxing. And he's aggressive for you people that don't like how a defensive expert like Floyd can shut down a guy the caliber of Manny. People say he ran but his punch output was higher than Pac too.
 
#4,178
#4,178
Just watch fights that have Russian names involved... No dancing exhibitions there.
 
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utvols88 said:
This fight was an outlier to the realities of boxing. Let's not kid ourselves here.

That's like me using the world series numbers as baseball's real interest.
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There is nothing more exciting on TV than ABC Bowling. Don't you jump up and down and scream every time a pin falls???
Huh? Huh?
 
#4,184
#4,184
Boxing's problem is a great boxer can be boring TV. Mayweather is boring to watch. All of his fights normally are. He is still great.
 
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#4,186
HBO and pay-per-view are the worst things to happen to boxing, maybe not from a $ standpoint but most definitely in regards to popularity. For several decades there, every radio and tv in America would have been tuned in to that fight last night. Instead, any fight of note has been removed from viewership for the vast majority of Americans. I remember pitching in to watch the Tyson vs. Holyfield where he but off his ear; I was pretty pissed. I don't know what it would take to ever get me to pony up to watch another fight.
 
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butchna said:
Just watch fights that have Russian names involved... No dancing exhibitions there.
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That Lomachenko kid that fought on the undercard last night looked really good and has a bright future. He is a scrapper with fast hands.

I would not want to watch Mayweather fight again. I understand defense is part of it but he is a point fighter and has not plans of throwing down. Not a big fan of that style of fighting.
 
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#4,188
Look up the name Gennady Golovkin, watch his previous fights and then watch the next time he's on TV and tell me that boxing is boring.

Hell, go back and watch the Gatti v Ward trilogy or the Vazquez v Marquez fights and say that it's hard to watch. Floyd is a POS but he's an amazing defensive tactician and one of the best defensive fighters of all time but it doesn't make for good tv viewing. Doesn't mean the sport is dead, or even hurting. It's niche and it will be forever but it'll still be fine and make a ton of money.
 
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itsme said:
That Lomachenko kid that fought on the undercard last night looked really good and has a bright future. He is a scrapper with fast hands.
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He is one of the best coming up, that is one hell of a fighter and the farthest thing from boring.
 
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KoachKletus said:
Old school boxing is dead??? How many MMA fighters have pulled in $100 million plus just for one fight?
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If GSP and Anderson Silva would have ever fought or Bones Jones and Silva could have possibly done it.

Boxing isn't alive just because of one fight. If they were to rematch they wouldn't draw near the same numbers like a Holyfield/Tyson did. Long drawn out hype got this payday. The fight itself was weak. You seriously just had a 100 million dollar fight where not a single boxer will have a black eye/bruise/cut something. This fight was just for show and collecting a paycheck for both fighters
 
#4,191
#4,191
They should have fought like 6 or 8 years ago. That's my biggest gripe on boxing. That and the lack of an American heavyweight who can dethrone the Russians.
 
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#4,193
As long as MMA proceeds are all falling into the pocket of one man, it'll never be as big a sport as boxing.

An exciting, American heavyweight would make bank. Boxing would climb back up the spectator sport hierarchy in a hurry.

Check out Deontay Wilder on YouTube for an example of what an exciting heavyweight might look like. Too bad the kid is a Bama fan...
 
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delfonic said:
As long as MMA proceeds are all falling into the pocket of one man, it'll never be as big a sport as boxing.

An exciting, American heavyweight would make bank. Boxing would climb back up the spectator sport hierarchy in a hurry.

Check out Deontay Wilder on YouTube for an example of what an exciting heavyweight might look like. Too bad the kid is a Bama fan...
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It's no different than other major sports. You have the heads or top guys making bank and it trickles down. So far I don't really have a problem with what The UFC is doing with paying fighters. I do have a problem with the drug use that is seeming to run rampant within the program though with no real punishment.

Jon Jones biggest problem is that no one held him accountable for so many years. He just acted like a douche and now he is in too deep to ignore.

Do you really want 20 different promoters and belts not knowing who the best MMA fighter really is? I don't.
 
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itsme said:
It's no different than other major sports. You have the heads or top guys making bank and it trickles down. So far I don't really have a problem with what The UFC is doing with paying fighters. I do have a problem with the drug use that is seeming to run rampant within the program though with no real punishment.

Jon Jones biggest problem is that no one held him accountable for so many years. He just acted like a douche and now he is in too deep to ignore.

Do you really want 20 different promoters and belts not knowing who the best MMA fighter really is? I don't.
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Change the subject to domestic violence and you have boxing in Nevada.
 
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#4,197
I don't think as many people would care about Mayweather boxing, if he was not so hated. Most wanted to see him lose.

As for the loss of the NFL streak, hopefully this means that things are changing and streaks going away--mostly losing to Florida and Alabama...
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
if you cant look at our rb depth and wrs who cant stay on the field then thats on you. We are razor thin and ppl on here think we are SEC contenders. we have 2 running backs and one has had shoulder surgery twice in a yr and a half. We have about 3 corners. maybe. From a depth standpoint that class was not what we expected. we lost a ton of the class. some people dont wanna see the facts.
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RB depth- when Kelly and Bruce get here in the summer, we'll have 4 scholarship RBs. So, 2 of the top SEC RBs plus 2 freshmen at a minimum. Not sure where RDV will play, but he may be #5

WRs- depth is beginning to be a concern for sure, especially if Von doesn't return. North, Pig, Smith, Johnson, Croom...gotta hope PWill is ahead of schedule with his rehab and ready to go.

CBs- Sutton, Moseley, Forman with Martin, Miller and Abernathy coming in. Gaulden at nickel. That's 6-7 to work with, although 2-3 more experienced players would be ideal. Fortunately, they'll be playing alongside some very experienced safeties.

As far as what we lost from the 2014 class, it's hard to know how significant the losses will end up being. Would've been nice to keep Hendrix, Helm and Wharton, but beyond those 3, losing Scott, Payne, Paulk, Henderson and Sawyers doesn't seem to be that big a deal at the moment. Iirc, we still have 25 players on the roster from that historic class. Your point about needing to keep guys healthy this (like every) year is well taken, while your point that the 2014 class is now "trash" is not.
 
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KBVol said:
RB depth- when Kelly and Bruce get here in the summer, we'll have 4 scholarship RBs. So, 2 of the top SEC RBs plus 2 freshmen at a minimum. Not sure where RDV will play, but he may be #5

WRs- depth is beginning to be a concern for sure, especially if Von doesn't return. North, Pig, Smith, Johnson, Croom...gotta hope PWill is ahead of schedule with his rehab and ready to go.

CBs- Sutton, Moseley, Forman with Martin, Miller and Abernathy coming in. Gaulden at nickel. That's 6-7 to work with, although 2-3 more experienced players would be ideal. Fortunately, they'll be playing alongside some very experienced safeties.

As far as what we lost from the 2014 class, it's hard to know how significant the losses will end up being. Would've been nice to keep Hendrix, Helm and Wharton, but beyond those 3, losing Scott, Payne, Paulk, Henderson and Sawyers doesn't seem to be that big a deal at the moment. Iirc, we still have 25 players on the roster from that historic class. Your point about needing to keep guys healthy this (like every) year is well taken, while your point that the 2014 class is now "trash" is not.
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Seems like everyone is forgetting Joe Young. He will be on campus in the fall
 
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