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DD4ME said:
I am going to admit that I am supposed to go to the AR game next week and have no desire to go. I'm going for my son who will get to see his cousins but if not for that I would cancel.
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I feel the same way. Have friends that are coming from Houston and Missouri to the game that I really want to spend time with, but really have desire to keep investing so much money in the team right now. Decided to post my tickets and parking passes for sale. If they sell, that's fine. If they don't, I'll go.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Blue font right? Azzanni is horrible.
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Azzani is a great recruiter but his technique sucks at WR coach. They start out too low to be able to win against a a jam and get seperation. Our WRs are stacked talent wise but technique wise they are below average.
 
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justwatch123 said:
Could we have gotten the wideouts the ball more no question about it we could. But the offense moved the ball. I understand we a next level athletes on the outside but what we were doing offensively was workin. If it wasn't then u have to adjust but it did. But I agree I'm not sure about the situation either. But we have to do something.
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Fair point. But I believe that just an adequate passing attack would make us a truly effective offense, and keep the defense honest enough to get that game sealing drive, instead of the game losing 3-and-out.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Malone shouldn't be used.....

Williams, Pearson, and North on that.

Teams with trash WRs attacked Florida. Our coaches were scared of a banged up secondary.
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Malone is a hook and in wide receiver. He has to have the ball in front of him to be a good wide receiver.(the same for smith)

Williams, north, and even croom should be the only receivers used on deep passes.

This all comes back to our great oc not setting future plays up. It is like he takes a dart and throws it at a board to pick his plays.(no rhyme or reason for what he does)
 
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BruinVol said:
Well those plays count as well. He gets credit for those

We dominated on the ground. Besides there isn't one poster here that thought we could lose AND dominate on the ground.
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When you rely on trick plays to gain a huge percentage of your yards and a large percentage of your points, results like yesterday are the norm.

Florida was decimated on D with injuries and suspensions and yet we never tested their secondary. Every yard earned yesterday was hard earned when it didn't have to be. We are as one dimensional as any team I can remember. Swap coaches yesterday and CJM would have beaten FL by four touchdowns. Butch is way way way way over his head. I like the guy but the writing is on the wall.
 
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A little OT this morning, but I'm baffled by how bad Auburn is. I know they have QB issues, but wtf? What they are experiencing right now would be the equivalent to Butch reeling in two more top 10/top 5 classes and then the team being completely awful in 2017.

They have a ridiculous amount of talent but they aren't good at anything.
 
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Also, still wondering why TK Jr. is splitting time. He reminds me of Tyron Matheui . He is constantly around the ball and making plays.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Yep he has to win the next 3 to get me back to believing he can do it. As of now I'd prefer he move on and let us hire a big name coach that wants to coach some studs to a championship
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Same here. I think he needs all 3 to get the fans back, and must win the next 2 to get the team back IMO. I bet there is some real dessension in the ranks thought that locker room right now.
 
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Aesius said:
A little OT this morning, but I'm baffled by how bad Auburn is. I know they have QB issues, but wtf? What they are experiencing right now would be the equivalent to Butch reeling in two more top 10/top 5 classes and then the team being completely awful in 2017.

They have a ridiculous amount of talent but they aren't good at anything.
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No kidding apparently muschamp had to only install like half of their concepts on defense because their players couldn't handle all of it.
 
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The elephant in the room is DOBBS.

We, VolNation, the coaches, the team, everyone wants Dobbs to be successful, and there is not a nicer young man in the U.S. He is bright, articulate, a great person, and a good/great runner. He handles the ball well, and is composed. He just is not a good passer. The fact that he is such a good runner helps Hurd and Kamara.

Having said that we are still one dimensional, relying on just the run. If we can't line up on first down with a pass threat then we are in trouble in the 4th quarter. God, we are so close. One additional 1st down in two straight games and we are undefeated. But they know we are not going to throw the ball because they don't trust Dobbs. And Butch has told us and the opposing coaches that for 2 1/2 years.

The coaching staff has an awful decision to make. Keep starting Dobbs and wait until Dormady is ready or bite the bullet and make the change now, maybe too early. But that is why he makes the big bucks, to make those decisions.
 
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jlawso21 said:
The elephant in the room is DOBBS.

We, VolNation, the coaches, the team, everyone wants Dobbs to be successful, and there is not a nicer young man in the U.S. He is bright, articulate, a great person, and a good/great runner. He handles the ball well, and is composed. He just is not a good passer. The fact that he is such a good runner helps Hurd and Kamara.

Having said that we are still one dimensional, relying on just the run. If we can't line up on first down with a pass threat then we are in trouble in the 4th quarter. God, we are so close. One additional 1st down in two straight games and we are undefeated. But they know we are not going to throw the ball because they don't trust Dobbs. And Butch has told us and the opposing coaches that for 2 1/2 years.

The coaching staff has an awful decision to make. Keep starting Dobbs and wait until Dormady is ready or bite the bullet and make the change now, maybe too early. But that is why he makes the big bucks, to make those decisions.
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Dobbs is the only reason that we have chances to win. Our OLine is garbage. Kendricks and kerb in particular. Put someone less athletic back there and they don't extend half the play dobbs does. Dobbs accuracy issues are real but he gives us the best chance to keep plays alive
 
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jlawso21 said:
The elephant in the room is DOBBS.

We, VolNation, the coaches, the team, everyone wants Dobbs to be successful, and there is not a nicer young man in the U.S. He is bright, articulate, a great person, and a good/great runner. He handles the ball well, and is composed. He just is not a good passer. The fact that he is such a good runner helps Hurd and Kamara.

Having said that we are still one dimensional, relying on just the run. If we can't line up on first down with a pass threat then we are in trouble in the 4th quarter. God, we are so close. One additional 1st down in two straight games and we are undefeated. But they know we are not going to throw the ball because they don't trust Dobbs. And Butch has told us and the opposing coaches that for 2 1/2 years.

The coaching staff has an awful decision to make. Keep starting Dobbs and wait until Dormady is ready or bite the bullet and make the change now, maybe too early. But that is why he makes the big bucks, to make those decisions.
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IMO, you can't put anything on Dobbs until they give him a real opportunity to sink or swim in the passing game. Just throw him in the deep end and see what happens, I'll bet he surprises people. Instead, our staff keeps him in the baby pool with water wings on. Not possible to judge him at this point.
 
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unioncityvol said:
You aren't Volatil. We have a bad O line and freshman MLB. And we are competing again. Things are getting better. We are climbing the SEC ladder after being cellar dwellers. Are we ready to win the SEC? No.
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We are much better than you think. Everything was in place for a great year except the staff.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
IMO, you can't put anything on Dobbs until they give him a real opportunity to sink or swim in the passing game. Just throw him in the deep end and see what happens, I'll bet he surprises people. Instead, our staff keeps him in the baby pool with water wings on. Not possible to judge him at this point.
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Agree this may sound dumb but I think Jim Chaney would do great with this offense and developing dobbs with some of the WRs we have.
 
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unioncityvol said:
You aren't Volatil. We have a bad O line and freshman MLB. And we are competing again. Things are getting better. We are climbing the SEC ladder after being cellar dwellers. Are we ready to win the SEC? No.
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UF had a bad OL, a RS Fr QB making his 2nd start, and a defense that was beat up.
 
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HankHill said:
Also, still wondering why TK Jr. is splitting time. He reminds me of Tyron Matheui . He is constantly around the ball and making plays.
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It's tough because Mcniel does good things too. However TK 100 percent earned right to start and disappointed he was not starting. Randolph seems more like the weak link Saftey wise this year. McNeil and Kelly making more plays

Starting Jumper was borderline idiotic and cost a TD on first drive then he goes back to Kirkland.

Butch is too stubborn for his own good. Some really odd decisions this year with lineup makes me feel there is some internal fighting going on. The weird Oline shift late in camp after Weismann and Kendrick almost quit this jumper crap. TK not starting.
 
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