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Skullbone said:
Well despite all the drama I think this was actually the best Republican nominee field we've had to choose from in a long time. In the past it was pretty much a lock for whoever was next in the establishment line. Ted Cruz taking it to the convention BTW.
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It was a great field. It's a shame Trump crowded out a number of legitimately excellent contenders.
 
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Catbone said:
Cruz will win the nomination. It's over, the GOP made sure it won't be Trump.
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I agree that the party has been working against him, to an extent. But Trump's ceiling has been somewhere around 30% of the vote since the primary began with the two other main candidates usually running in the 20s.

From the beginning, his best and only chance has been Cruz and Rubio splitting the vote. It shouldn't be some big surprise if/when he doesn't win the primary.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
For Cruz it is. He hasn't done well in a state without a large percentage of evangelicals.
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So Maine has a lot of evangelicals? It may be an outlier, may not - it's too early to tell. Maine is well down the list per Pew's research. The state is 60% Christian and 44% would be considered evangelical per the media/politicians. In reality it is 14% evangelical per respondents. The sitting governor even endorsed Trump.

Cruz comes in second far more of the time when he doesn't win. Should tell everybody how this is going to go. It's a two man battle.
 
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This race is really tightening up. Cruz and Trump split the four states at two a piece. In the States that Trump won is was pretty tight, where as in States the Cruz won he did so fairly comfortably. If one more gets out soon, I think Cruz takes this. If either Rubio, or Kasich stay in for a good bit longer, I think Trump takes it. What's ironic is Trump is calling for Rubio to get out when him doing so could cost him the nomination in the end.
 
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Catbone said:
Cruz will win the nomination. It's over, the GOP made sure it won't be Trump.
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Cruz is still only at 65% of his target delegates, Trump is over 100%.

It isn't over, but there are certainly cracks in Trump's campaign. The biggest news that came out of yesterday was that Cruz beat Trump in La in voters you decided on Election Day.

Schedule gets tougher for Cruz in the future. He needs to keep hitting Trump on policy. Let Rubio sink to the personal level stuff.
 
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Interesting thoughts, guys. Too early to tell, but we will see the likely path unfold on the night of the 15th.

Trump could win 165 delegates in the winner take all's in FL and OH. After that Trump will win NJ's 51 in a winner take all. Add that to major delegate counts in MI, NC, PA, NY, IL and CA where he has substantial leads - he will be difficult to overcome.

Cruz needs Kasich to take Ohio because Trump is likely to win FL. He needs Rubio to bow out with Kasich and throw support his way. AZ has another winner take all later on that Cruz is more likely to win. He needs to win more primary states and pull some upsets.
 
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I've never been a huge Nate Diaz fan, but he just made my all time favorites list when he choked the potatoes out of the hype machine that was Conor McGregor. He made somebody rich in Vegas last night.
 
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Skullbone said:
I've never been a huge Nate Diaz fan, but he just made my all time favorites list when he choked the potatoes out of the hype machine that was Conor McGregor. He made somebody rich in Vegas last night.
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Is this racist? As a ginger of Irish heritage, I feel like this is racist.
 
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volfan_89 said:
Is this racist? As a ginger of Irish heritage, I feel like this is racist.
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It's cool, I'm part Irish, too. I'm not sure Irish is really a race though. This would be more a nationalist form of discrimination. My second choice was a lucky charms reference.
 
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ita been a while since I've taken American government, so help me out here. What if Rubio bows out prior to the convention and gives his support to Cruz? Do his delegates automatically go to Cruz? I'm thinking they could go wherever they wish, but the majority go to Cruz, correct? And if that happens, would it be enough to overcome Trump?
 
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Brillovol said:
ita been a while since I've taken American government, so help me out here. What if Rubio bows out prior to the convention and gives his support to Cruz? Do his delegates automatically go to Cruz? I'm thinking they could go wherever they wish, but the majority go to Cruz, correct? And if that happens, would it be enough to overcome Trump?
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Party rules for conventions are actually pretty complicated, but in general Rubio's pledged delegates are bound to him in the first round of voting at the convention. However, if no one is nominated after the first round of voting, the delegates are no longer bound and are free to vote for whomever they want.

This is why its always a good idea to narrow the field to two candidates as quickly as possible, so you don't have a huge chunk of delegates in limbo.
 
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Dust10 said:
Party rules for conventions are actually pretty complicated, but in general Rubio's pledged delegates are bound to him in the first round of voting at the convention. However, if no one is nominated after the first round of voting, the delegates are no longer bound and are free to vote for whomever they want.

This is why its always a good idea to narrow the field to two candidates as quickly as possible, so you don't have a huge chunk of delegates in limbo.
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Thanks, I did not know this.
 
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Dust10 said:
Party rules for conventions are actually pretty complicated, but in general Rubio's pledged delegates are bound to him in the first round of voting at the convention. However, if no one is nominated after the first round of voting, the delegates are no longer bound and are free to vote for whomever they want.

This is why its always a good idea to narrow the field to two candidates as quickly as possible, so you don't have a huge chunk of delegates in limbo.
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Thanks. Wasn't there a convention not long ago where one or more of the delegates went rogue and gave their vote to another candidate?
 
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Brillovol said:
Thanks. Wasn't there a convention not long ago where one or more of the delegates went rogue and gave their vote to another candidate?
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There hasn't really been anything too controversial since the 70's. In 2008, a lot of the Super Delegates for the Dems were pledged to Clinton but flipped to Obama once he gained momentum, but this happened well before the convention and its well within their right to do so.

I think Trump will end up with enough delegates to carry a majority at the convention. There are some "winner take all" states coming up that I think Trump will win.
 
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On another note Brillo, the party could also change the rules and allow the pledged delegates to jump ship before the first round of voting. Some democrats tried to do this to Carter, but ultimately failed.

This is the scenario some are floating where Mitt Romney becomes the nominee. It's amazing that someone not even on a ballot in any state could become the nominee.
 
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dust10 said:
on another note brillo, the party could also change the rules and allow the pledged delegates to jump ship before the first round of voting. Some democrats tried to do this to carter, but ultimately failed.

This is the scenario some are floating where mitt romney becomes the nominee. It's amazing that someone not even on a ballot in any state could become the nominee.
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