Recruiting forum off topic thread (no politics, covid, or hot button issues)

[Devo182]

Still has an unfair competitive edge over naturally born women.

K. Was just correcting the poster on the individual.

 

[Weezer]

K. Was just correcting the poster on the individual.

K. Was just pointing out surgery doesn't change genetics.

 

[volbeast33]

K. Was just correcting the poster on the individual.

She had taken hormonal blockers but still has a penis…. Female swimmers have complained about her not covering up in the locker room…. She is literally juwanna Mann.

 

[Glitch]

what are we looking at here?

Three female swimmers on the right. One of whom would've won first place if the dude on the left had not been allowed to declare himself a female and swim against them.

 

[Devo182]

She had taken hormonal blockers but still has a penis…. Female swimmers have complained about her not covering up in the locker room…. She is literally juwanna Mann.

Exactly. She's taken the transitioning horomones for years, as far as I've read. Not a stunt obviously...not a guy in drag as other poster suggested. No idea about surgery, that is another step...quite a big one in my opinion I can't imagine...but the drag resistance gainz...

 

[letsgoUT29]

Saw an interview with HIM this morning, even talks like a dude!

Who would’ve ever thought the movie Juwanna Mann could actually happen?

 

[SSVol]

Exactly. She's taken the transitioning horomones for years, as far as I've read. Not a stunt obviously...not a guy in drag as other poster suggested. No idea about surgery, that is another step...quite a big one in my opinion I can't imagine...but the drag resistance gainz...

Saying "transitioned" doesn't change the reality.

 

[Devo182]

K. Was just pointing out surgery doesn't change genetics.

K. Cool non-sequitur. Apples are better than peaches while we're at it. What are we doing again?

I was merely pointing out to poster she wasn't some guy in drag or whatever. Seemed to be confused.

 

[VolMike16]

Saying "transitioned" doesn't change the reality.

They'll never stop moving the goal posts.

 

[Devo182]

Saying "transitioned" doesn't change the reality.

Reality of what?

She's a woman. She may also have a possible biological advantage due to growing up with extra testosterone while developing.

Afaik that's as close to reality as I know. Of course, tons of opinion and disagreeing science is all swept in it. But that's as much as I know about her situation and others' trans athlete situations.

 

[Weezer]

K. Cool non-sequitur. Apples are better than peaches while we're at it. What are we doing again?

I was merely pointing out to poster she wasn't some guy in drag or whatever. Seemed to be confused.

If a man wants to have surgery to become a woman, or vice versa, that's totally their right. The whole point of the conversation, though, is that it creates an unfair competitive advantage to let someone born a male compete as a female, regardless if they've had reassignment surgery or not.

 

[UTSuave’]

They'll never stop moving the goal posts.

Anyone remember when they finally moved it 10 yards back..those were the days

 

[Devo182]

If a man wants to have surgery to become a woman, or vice versa, that's totally their right. The whole point of the conversation, though, is that it creates an unfair competitive advantage to let someone born a male compete as a female, regardless if they've had reassignment surgery or not.

Ok. Where did that debate begin? Was anyone arguing about that?

Try to follow. I disagreed with other poster she was a man or a cross dresser...drag...whatever they were thinking.

You're arguing no one. Goodness. Can't just correct someone without non-sequitur arguments out of left field.

Same old "hey, Saban's shirt is nice"..."you must love Bama" nonsense. Nuance is lost in society.

 

[Weezer]

Ok. Where did that debate begin? Was anyone arguing about that?

Try to follow. I disagreed with other poster she was a man or a cross dresser...drag...whatever they were thinking.

You're arguing no one. Goodness. Can't just correct someone without non-sequitur arguments out of left field.

It's the conversation that's been going on in the thread. Perhaps you've just ignored those posts? Or maybe you're just playing SJW?

 

[Volator]

Reality of what?

She's a woman. She may also have a possible biological advantage due to growing up with extra testosterone while developing.

Afaik that's as close to reality as I know. Of course, tons of opinion and disagreeing science is all swept in it. But that's as much as I know about her situation and others' trans athlete situations.

He is a biological male who looks and sounds like a male. Funny he chose this year to transition so the spotlight could shine on him.

 

[SSVol]

Reality of what?

She's a woman. She may also have a possible biological advantage due to growing up with extra testosterone while developing.

Afaik that's as close to reality as I know. Of course, tons of opinion and disagreeing science is all swept in it. But that's as much as I know about her situation and others' trans athlete situations.

No, 'she' isn't a woman and will never be. Every strand of DNA in 'her' body screams otherwise. Keep saying it though.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

Reality of what?

She's a woman. She may also have a possible biological advantage due to growing up with extra testosterone while developing.

Afaik that's as close to reality as I know. Of course, tons of opinion and disagreeing science is all swept in it. But that's as much as I know about her situation and others' trans athlete situations.

If aliens visited this planet and asked you to explain what a woman was, what would you tell them?

 

[Devo182]

It's the conversation that's been going on in the thread. Perhaps you've just ignored those posts? Or maybe you're just playing SJW?

Focus on a specific point. Just because I correct one person, doesn't assume an entire argument.

If I think an opponent's stadium is nice...that doesn't mean I love the opponent team.

N-u-a-n-c-e

 

[Weezer]

I'm not arguing against a person's right to do whatever they want with their body, but it totally goes against the spirit of sportsmanship to say it's okay for someone born a male to compete against females.

 

[Devo182]

If aliens visited this planet and asked you to explain what a woman was, what would you tell them?

Sex or gender?

Common mistake. It's ok.

 

[Rishvol]

If aliens visited this planet and asked you to explain what a woman was, what would you tell them?

 

[volbeast33]

Sex or gender?

Common mistake. It's ok.

I can’t believe you have bought into that nonsense.

 

[UTSuave’]

Sad day…Volnation forum has become a Kardashian fan club and everyone is fighting over Bruce Jenner contemplating on migrating over to the Football forum…..should I?

 

[GoBigOrange86]

Sex or gender?

Common mistake. It's ok.

You’re aware there’s lots of denial around even biological sex too, yeah?

ETA: Let’s say gender. What is a woman?

 

[UTProf]

I'm not arguing against a person's right to do whatever they want with their body, but it totally goes against the spirit of sportsmanship to say it's okay for someone born a male to compete against females.

This. I'm fine with Lia being/identifying as a woman. I'm not fine with being forced to compete against her. That's simply not a fair competition. I think the issue is where the cutoff line is going to be because I think it would probably be fair if she'd never gone through male puberty but there are some things that can't be fixed simply by taking hormones, especially after the fact.