Recruiting forum off topic thread (no politics, covid, or hot button issues)

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I don't know your situation, but I don't think in general it's any more expensive. My friends all say "you have to buy them a cell phone and pay for travel baseball and competitive gymnastics and buy them brand new clothes, I just can't afford a kid."

Not saying you're saying that, but typically when people say kids are too expensive, they mean keeping up with the Joneses while raising a kid is too expensive. Goodwill clothes and rec league soccer and not buying them a cell phone is a perfectly acceptable way to parent, the only things that have gotten more expensive are society's expectations of how much parents should buy their kids.

Exactly...my kids all turned out great even though we were poor as hell, but we were happy...that is all that matters.

 

[Ten_Titans]

It doesn't have a dang thing to do with that sorry excuse, young people these days are just immature and selfish...they want to play at life, they don't want the responsibility of children.

Lol. Coming from the parents of the current generation. Rich.

Responsibility is choosing not to have kids because you'd rather do other things. If someone avoids having children because they have a real passion for doing coke off of strippers, that's still more responsible than having kids you can't afford and then bailing on them.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Lol. Coming from the parents of the current generation. Rich.

Responsibility is choosing not to have kids because you'd rather do other things. If someone avoids having children because they have a real passion for doing coke off of strippers, that's still more responsible than having kids you can't afford and then bailing on them.

doing illegal narcotics off a stripper is more responsible than having kids you cant afford? that's your example?

 

[SoilVol]

It doesn't have a dang thing to do with that sorry excuse, young people these days are just immature and selfish...they want to play at life, they don't want the responsibility of children.

Dumb oversimplification of something you don't understand is dumb and oversimplified.

 

[SoilVol]

doing illegal narcotics off a stripper is more responsible than having kids you cant afford? that's your example?

Dude had a solid argument and tanked it with that metaphor

 

[jave36]

Ok man. The amount of wealth accrued in this Country during 90's was staggering...

Until the Corporate Tax cuts in recent memory.

How Much Money America’s Billionaires Have Made During The Covid-19 Pandemic

That's the problem, the trickle doesnt trickle when theres no trickle.

What does that have to do with the topic of how expensive it is to raise children? And there's been plenty of trickle, our standard of living in America has gone up so much. Ordinary people can save their way to millionaire status on average incomes. No time in history has that been true. A blue collar factory worker can retire a millionaire. That's insane. Just because the rich have gotten richer (like literally every decade in history) doesn't make our lives worse. We have plenty of opportunity and means to get rich without really even working that hard.

 

[Jackcrevol]

What does that have to do with the topic of how expensive it is to raise children? And there's been plenty of trickle, our standard of living in America has gone up so much. Ordinary people can save their way to millionaire status on average incomes. No time in history has that been true. A blue collar factory worker can retire a millionaire. That's insane. Just because the rich have gotten richer (like literally every decade in history) doesn't make our lives worse. We have plenty of opportunity and means to get rich without really even working that hard.

Ok. It has to do with the absolutely ridiculous wealth of upper 1% in this Country via tax cuts. Its insanity.

And I have no idea what planet your living on where you think a middle class earner can realistically be a millionaire, 'just save more'. Unless you retire in NY and move down South.

And no, it doesnt trickle, ever. Period. It's a horse **** philosophy.

 

[Ten_Titans]

doing illegal narcotics off a stripper is more responsible than having kids you cant afford? that's your example?

Yes. What part of that are you hung up on?

Not only is it more responsible, there are no externalities to doing coke off of a stripper. In other words, it really isn't any of anyone else's business. Meanwhile, having kids and raising them poorly or not at all is a giant problem for everyone in the community.

 

[Weezer]

Ok man. The amount of wealth accrued in this Country during 90's was staggering...

Until the Corporate Tax cuts in recent memory.

How Much Money America’s Billionaires Have Made During The Covid-19 Pandemic

That's the problem, the trickle doesnt trickle when theres no trickle.

If you have a problem with trickling, see a doctor for antibiotics and start choosing cleaner women.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Dude had a solid argument and tanked it with that metaphor

Sorry. Contributing for your Roth IRA is more responsible than having kids you can't afford.

I'm demonstrating a point, not stating the obvious.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Yes. What part of that are you hung up on?

Not only is it more responsible, there are no externalities to doing coke off of a stripper. In other words, it really isn't any of anyone else's business. Meanwhile, having kids and raising them poorly or not at all is a giant problem for everyone in the community.

Cocaine is an illegal narcotic man. Yeah, it's against the law. Raising kids, isnt illegal, lmao.

 

[Glitch]

Ok man. The amount of wealth accrued in this Country during 90's was staggering...

Until the Corporate Tax cuts in recent memory.

How Much Money America’s Billionaires Have Made During The Covid-19 Pandemic

That's the problem, the trickle doesnt trickle when theres no trickle.

There is no such thing as trickle down economics. There has never been an economist that has espoused trickle down economics. The only people that have ever even uttered it are politicians.

 

[Ten_Titans]

Cocaine is an illegal narcotic man. Yeah, it's against the law. Raising kids, isnt illegal, lmao.

Okay? Responsibility vs ethnicality vs legality are three entirely different concepts.

 

[Weezer]

Sorry. Contributing for your Roth IRA is more responsible than having kids you can't afford.

I'm demonstrating a point, not stating the obvious.

Is your point that you'd like to be doing a line of coke off a stripper's ass? If that's your point, you conveyed it well.

 

[Jackcrevol]

There is no such thing as trickle down economics. There has never been an economist that has espoused trickle down economics. The only people that have ever even uttered it are politicians.

I believe in Trickle...

 

[Ten_Titans]

Ok. It has to do with the absolutely ridiculous wealth of upper 1% in this Country via tax cuts. Its insanity.

And I have no idea what planet your living on where you think a middle class earner can realistically be a millionaire, 'just save more'. Unless you retire in NY and move down South.

And no, it doesnt trickle, ever. Period. It's a horse **** philosophy.

What tax cuts are you referring to? The top earners in this country pay the bulk of the taxes. The top earners in this country are taxed at about the average rate by global standards.

Trickle down economics isn't real, but neither is the idea you can tax the rich into generating a thriving middle class.

 

[Weezer]

I believe in Trickle...

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Again, antibiotics and cleaner women will fix that right up.

 

[Weezer]

I believe in Trickle...

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[Jackcrevol]

Again, antibiotics and cleaner women will fix that right up.

sounds judgy

 

[Weezer]

sounds judgy

Life advice is not judgy. I'm okay if cooties make your penis fall off.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Life advice is not judgy. I'm okay if cooties make your penis fall off.

proud of my cooties

 

[Weezer]

proud of my cooties

 

[Glitch]

Ok. It has to do with the absolutely ridiculous wealth of upper 1% in this Country via tax cuts. Its insanity.

And I have no idea what planet your living on where you think a middle class earner can realistically be a millionaire, 'just save more'. Unless you retire in NY and move down South.

And no, it doesnt trickle, ever. Period. It's a horse **** philosophy.

Do you know the top 1% pay about 20% of the taxes that are paid?

 

[jave36]

Ok. It has to do with the absolutely ridiculous wealth of upper 1% in this Country via tax cuts. Its insanity.

And I have no idea what planet your living on where you think a middle class earner can realistically be a millionaire, 'just save more'. Unless you retire in NY and move down South.

And no, it doesnt trickle, ever. Period. It's a horse **** philosophy.

I see it all the time. True you can't live in NYC right out of college and expect to save your way to a million, but outside of the most expensive cities it's really not that hard. Listen to all the Dave Ramsey people who are middle class people with paid off houses and 7 figure retirement funds. I know plenty of people like that personally.

 

[Ashevolle]

I see it all the time. True you can't live in NYC right out of college and expect to save your way to a million, but outside of the most expensive cities it's really not that hard. Listen to all the Dave Ramsey people who are middle class people with paid off houses and 7 figure retirement funds. I know plenty of people like that personally.

What does it matter if $1 million isn't enough to retire on. This ain't the 90s anymore.