'20 Recruiting Forum: Official Kentucky Pregame/Game Thread

[butchna]

This program is basically at the same point we were when Dooley got double fisted by Kentucky at Kentucky and we stuck with him another year.

Nowhere close.

 

[MarcoVol]

Why does it always have to come to some awful loss and the “players only meeting” or rallying around some horrid start? Why can’t we play sound football for 12 damn games. I’m tired of looking back on seasons and saying “what if we had played like we finished for 12 games?”

Difference between programs that know how to win and programs that don’t. No player on this team currently knows what it’s like or what it takes to win consistently at this level.
They haven’t experienced it.

 

[NMVol]

I suggest we get our snacks, and watch it without stress. In Garbage time hope they put in Bailey, and he can be our first team quarterback in practice in the bye week. We aren't going to go to any championships with this team, and are they even having bowls? I don't even know.

It's nachos and oucheys then?

 

[butchna]

I suggest we get our snacks, and watch it without stress. In Garbage time hope they put in Bailey, and he can be our first team quarterback in practice in the bye week. We aren't going to go to any championships with this team, and are they even having bowls? I don't even know.

Don’t even need a .500 record.

 

[Devo182]

Teams LITERALLY just stack the box

Agreed with your first half of post, but this part is the complete opposite of reality.

No team is stacking the box against us regularly lol. We run 11 personnel a huge majority of the time. It was 87% vs UGA and they didn't/couldn't stack the box at all...sadly they didn't need to.

Haven't seen box numbers or our personnel yet vs UK, but vaguely watching (skipped a lot) I saw quite a bit of flooding the secondary, which led to a pick or 2.

Offensive personnel dictates the number of men in the box most of the time and we have been avoiding loaded boxes with our 11s.

 

[csprig9]

Got 6 left
Gotta keep playing
Effort needs to pick up and HB needs to be the QB
Can’t believe I still get so upset with the past 15 years of dick punches we’ve had..... definitely gotta be a true fan/believer in Tennessee football to keep putting ourselves through this
Hope we can go 5-1 or 4-2 at worse
Finish strong

 

[WebbCobb]

We've been hearing this **** for 3 years. How long does it take?

It’s like he has nothing left to say; like he has run out of ideas

 

[Weezer]

This. When asked why they (recruits) like UT, they say 'I like the direction they are going'. We are certainly not going in the right direction, and that really hurts.

The only thing today proves is that there is easily playing time to be had. That's it. No signs of progress, no signs of players improving, nothing at all like that. Today was an utter, or udder for those so inclined, failure of coaching, of playing, of everything. A complete and total collapse from the top down.

 

[johnfnkelly]

Imagine continuing to support this bullsh*t.

I keep hearing how Pruitt does things the “right way”, till Saturday comes and we get embarrassed.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

 

[jakez4ut]

Imagine continuing to support this bullsh*t.

I keep hearing how Pruitt does things the “right way”, till Saturday comes and we get embarrassed.

I've already expressed concern, today was a step in the wrong direction... But let's not portray this as it's a regular occurrence....

 

[Weezer]

lmao If true, he'll probably go somewhere and become a superstar, just because that's been our luck.

 

[Devo182]

Difference between programs that know how to win and programs that don’t. No player on this team currently knows what it’s like or what it takes to win consistently at this level.
They haven’t experienced it.

Imo the mythical "know how to win" talk is BS. Sure, maybe a SMALL bit of margin is being experienced in tight situations...but "experienced" usually just means you are better than the opponent. That is the correlation, not some seasoned experience in close games. Kids won in youth ball, won in HS...come into college and go 5-7...did they forget how to "learn to win". Don't think so. Making plays is making plays. I've never seen players "learn" how to be clutch.

But losing by 3+ TDs in b2b games has nothing to do with it. These aren't close games. Not attacking ya Marco, just discussing and not very happy after that game

 

[bignewt]

Don't blame him. Hope he has success.

 

[Jack Burton]

Lol LET THE SEASON PLAY OUT

Remember how it was after BYU/UF last year...

Arky 2015 and the "player only meeting"...

Then we went and closed out both seasons really strong.

Not saying that happens again, as things don't always get better, but as fans we should wait to pass staff judgment till after they get a full season in. We must remember there is a LOT of variance in CFB due to a very limited sample size. This isn't like the NBA with 90 possessions a game and 82 games a year. CFB has maybe 70 possessions a game over a mere 12 game season.

Judging the staff right now is equal to judging an NBA staff after TWO of their 82 games...lots of weird things happen in the short-term. Let's wait and see how we finish.

But the trend is setting for us to have 1 or 2 of these games per year. If we’re going to get anywhere we have to beat equal or lesser talented teams more consistently.

 

[jave36]

Agreed with your first half of post, but this part is the complete opposite of reality.

No team is stacking the box against us regularly lol. We run 11 personnel a huge majority of the time. It was 87% vs UGA and they didn't/couldn't stack the box at all...sadly they didn't need to.

Haven't seen box numbers or our personnel yet vs UK, but vaguely watching (skipped a lot) I saw quite a bit of flooding the secondary, which led to a pick or 2.

Offensive personnel dictates the number of men in the box most of the time and we have been avoiding loaded boxes with our 11s.

I don't entirely disagree, but stacking the box vs 11 can still happen, it's just one less person than if we were to go 12/21 (have we run 2 TE at all this year?). The point he made is valid, teams are not respecting our pass game and are playing to stop our run game. They can't put 7 or 8 in the box very often because of our personnel, but they're bringing as many as possible and safeties are playing close to the LOS.

 

[jave36]

Even when I was most down on Pruitt, I never thought he'd get blasted by UK. Our QB coach needs to go if JG is the QB who gives us the best chance to succeed.

 

[gordonr24]

Arkansas goes from 2-10 ineptitude for two consecutive seasons and in less than one year, it shows signs of life and competence with a less talented roster than UT.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

JP letting it fester this long is on him and is killing his stock with the fans. Last year in the game threads there were more posts about how bad JG is. Now the posts are how bad JG, JP, and Chaney are. It'll keep on until it's how bad JP, Fulmer and the whole football program is. Fulmer doesn't want it to get that far. That was Hamilton and Hart's biggest problem, weak leadership. (Currie was a punk and should have never been here.)

I hate having another stubborn coach on the hill but I still trust(for now) that Fulmer will get Pruitt straightened out.

 

[Devo182]

But the trend is setting for us to have 1 or 2 of these games per year. If we’re going to get anywhere we have to beat equal or lesser talented teams more consistently.

2.25 years in, any "trend" is very wobbly. Give it 4 to 5 full seasons and maybe you have a legitimate trend. So far all I see is Ga St and UK, if we are talking being 30+ points off the spread.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Arkansas goes from 2-10 ineptitude for two consecutive seasons and in less than one year, it shows signs of life and competence with a less talented roster than UT.

Seent

 

[HankHill]

I don't entirely disagree, but stacking the box vs 11 can still happen, it's just one less person than if we were to go 12/21 (have we run 2 TE at all this year?). The point he made is valid, teams are not respecting our pass game and are playing to stop our run game. They can't put 7 or 8 in the box very often because of our personnel, but they're bringing as many as possible and safeties are playing close to the LOS.

“Stacking the box” is really beside the point. The way we’ve been played now since Georgia is really just squatting and teams are crowding the LOS and taking away the flats and squatting on anything short. Basically daring us to throw it deep.

11 personnel is really our only way to play right now because we literally don’t have TEs, let alone ones that are really a threat.

 

[UTSuave’]

Someone just posted this.

Not mad at him one bit!..f*** Pruitt for never giving that kid a fair shake.this is happening immediately after a bad loss **** like this goes noticed by recruits lol

 

[MetalVolunteer]

One of the worse games I’ve ever seen my Vols play. Just down rite pitiful.

Really wish we would go away from RPOs and get back to Single back and trips formations. Can’t stand watching us line up in Shotgun all the time.

Changes need to be made with ALL personnel.

QB needs to be changed period. New blood and ride with them.

We were really exposed at how far we have fallen when it comes to developing players.

Honestly, we should be 1-3 rite now. SC should have beat us if not for the late turnover.

But the really bad news is, I broke my Damn Calloway B21 driver today after JG threw the second pick 6.

 

[Devo182]

But the trend is setting for us to have 1 or 2 of these games per year. If we’re going to get anywhere we have to beat equal or lesser talented teams more consistently.

2.25 years in, any "trend" is very wobbly. Give it 4 to 5 full seasons and maybe you have a legitimate trend. So far all I see is Ga St and UK.