'24 Recruiting Forum: Official NC State Pregame/Game Thread

#52
#52
“Lizzo running the 100 meter dash” ought to go down in VN lore.

Thanks for coming back for another season, Nicksjunk. This is the good ol’ days of message boards.

On another note, what happened last time we played NCState? Didn’t we dice them up? I seem to remember White Lighting burning their preseason all American DBs
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
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The Vols hit the road this weekend and travel to Charlotte to take on the NC State Wolfpack. Things went according to plan for Tennessee last week, and not so much for NC State who found themselves in much more of a fight than they expected. In fact, it's not a stretch to say that they should have lost that game in spite of dominating virtually all statistical categories. It just looked extremely bland and unconvincing. Was it apathy or the measure of their talent? This week should tell the story.

Keys to Victory:

1. Control the Line of Scrimmage: NC State was able to rush for an impressive 6.2 yards per carry but gave up an eye popping 6.3 yards per carry. If you missed the memo, NC State played Western Carolina, a team who will be facing opponents such as Campbell, Elon, Montana, Wofford, The Citadel, Mercer, ETSU and our favorite instate friends, UT Chattanooga. Western Carolina had no business rushing for 6.3 YPC... no business. Tennessee's success often hinges on their ability to dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. On offense, they will look to establish a strong running game through Sampson which will open up the passing game. On defense, their ability to keep 6th year senior Jordan Waters locked up will increase the pressure on their QB to keep up with Tennessee's pace. Waters had a decent game but a 50 yard carry does a lot for skewing statistics.

2. Shock n Awe: Year after year, teams who have not faced a Heupel offense underestimate the challenge of handling what they are about to experience. It's like your uncle Billy talking about all the big ones he's caught out on Norris lake before you take him out to fish tuna. You think you know, but you don't know. The Wolfpack will be sucking more wind than Lizzo running the 100 meters in fuzzy slippers. NC State has a decent secondary, but nothing that should be concerning. Depending on how this game goes, Heupel may dial up a play or two that has someone just ridiculously wide open. If the Vols lead by enough, he will dial it down and just beat the breaks off of them on pace alone.

3. Contain Concepcion: North Carolina State has a young WR named Kevin Concepcion who can change a game. The young Tennessee secondary will find out what they are made of this week as the UT Chattanooga players were in a different realm of talent and speed. Concepcion had 9 catches for 121 yards and 3 touchdowns. Keeping him under 100 yards will be key.

4. Turnover Time: Other than the blocked punt vs. UT Chattanooga, the Vols didn't force a turnover. Part of it was a very vanilla defense, but I had hoped to see a bit more penetration into the backfield and hits on the QB to generate some turnovers. Tim Banks will not have the luxury of sitting back this week and should open up things a bit more, releasing James Pearce and giving the secondary an opportunity to pick off some balls.

Prediction: The line of 7.5 is way too low here. NC State is better than what we just saw, and the Vols may not score 69 again this year, but there is a gap here and it is substantial. This has the potential to be an absolute runaway, but I think NC State puts up enough resistance to keep it respectable for most of the game. They never really threaten, but you don't completely forget what the score is either. Gimmee Vols by 17.

TN 41
NC State 24

I'm honestly not sure how they score 24, but there it is.
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like Lizzo running 3 feet...IMG_6623.gif
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
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The Vols hit the road this weekend and travel to Charlotte to take on the NC State Wolfpack. Things went according to plan for Tennessee last week, and not so much for NC State who found themselves in much more of a fight than they expected. In fact, it's not a stretch to say that they should have lost that game in spite of dominating virtually all statistical categories. It just looked extremely bland and unconvincing. Was it apathy or the measure of their talent? This week should tell the story.

Keys to Victory:

1. Control the Line of Scrimmage: NC State was able to rush for an impressive 6.2 yards per carry but gave up an eye popping 6.3 yards per carry. If you missed the memo, NC State played Western Carolina, a team who will be facing opponents such as Campbell, Elon, Montana, Wofford, The Citadel, Mercer, ETSU and our favorite instate friends, UT Chattanooga. Western Carolina had no business rushing for 6.3 YPC... no business. Tennessee's success often hinges on their ability to dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. On offense, they will look to establish a strong running game through Sampson which will open up the passing game. On defense, their ability to keep 6th year senior Jordan Waters locked up will increase the pressure on their QB to keep up with Tennessee's pace. Waters had a decent game but a 50 yard carry does a lot for skewing statistics.

2. Shock n Awe: Year after year, teams who have not faced a Heupel offense underestimate the challenge of handling what they are about to experience. It's like your uncle Billy talking about all the big ones he's caught out on Norris lake before you take him out to fish tuna. You think you know, but you don't know. The Wolfpack will be sucking more wind than Lizzo running the 100 meters in fuzzy slippers. NC State has a decent secondary, but nothing that should be concerning. Depending on how this game goes, Heupel may dial up a play or two that has someone just ridiculously wide open. If the Vols lead by enough, he will dial it down and just beat the breaks off of them on pace alone.

3. Contain Concepcion: North Carolina State has a young WR named Kevin Concepcion who can change a game. The young Tennessee secondary will find out what they are made of this week as the UT Chattanooga players were in a different realm of talent and speed. Concepcion had 9 catches for 121 yards and 3 touchdowns. Keeping him under 100 yards will be key.

4. Turnover Time: Other than the blocked punt vs. UT Chattanooga, the Vols didn't force a turnover. Part of it was a very vanilla defense, but I had hoped to see a bit more penetration into the backfield and hits on the QB to generate some turnovers. Tim Banks will not have the luxury of sitting back this week and should open up things a bit more, releasing James Pearce and giving the secondary an opportunity to pick off some balls.

Prediction: The line of 7.5 is way too low here. NC State is better than what we just saw, and the Vols may not score 69 again this year, but there is a gap here and it is substantial. This has the potential to be an absolute runaway, but I think NC State puts up enough resistance to keep it respectable for most of the game. They never really threaten, but you don't completely forget what the score is either. Gimmee Vols by 17.

TN 41
NC State 24

I'm honestly not sure how they score 24, but there it is.
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Love you Nick...but Tyre knocked the piss outta that UTC rinning back and forced a fumble. 🤦‍♂️

I know..I know..."The little lights aren't twinkling Clark" 🤷‍♂️
 
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DaddyChad said:
Glitch should be pleased puppy meat will be on the menu this weekend when the Vols get done carving them up.

Vols 48
Puppy Pack 20
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First off...you would be thinking of @Weezer when you are thinking about the monster that consumes puppies.

Secondly...how could you confuse a beloved VolNation treasure and @Weezer?
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I was wondering if that weird 3 down lineman defense was something the Pack was working on just for us....if so, that is stupid. We are a running team...not a air raid.

I have not watched them much, is that something Doeren always does? Surely he doesn't think that will work against this offense..🤷‍♂️
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Their base defense is a 3-3-5
 
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Anyone predicting under 40 points for us has forgotten how this offense works. Joe and the ‘23 squad went over 40 points five times.

HH and the ‘22 squad put up 40 or more NINE times. UF (38), Pitt (34), SC/Stallions (38), and GA/the Zebras were the only teams to keep us under 40.

Nico put 35 on Iowa in his first start.

Really don’t see NC State keeping us in the range of ‘22 Pitt, UF, SC or ‘23 Iowa.
 
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volinexile17 said:
Anyone predicting under 40 points for us has forgotten how this offense works. Joe and the ‘23 squad went over 40 points five times.

HH and the ‘22 squad put up 40 or more NINE times. UF (38), Pitt (34), SC/Stallions (38), and GA/the Zebras were the only teams to keep us under 40.

Nico put 35 on Iowa in his first start.

Really don’t see NC State keeping us in the range of ‘22 Pitt, UF, SC or ‘23 Iowa.
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Good point...but counterpoint is...now we need to see Nico dice up a legitimate defense that will pressure him sometimes through the air.

I can't wait to see him answer that question...he throws pretty good on the run from the couple of times he had to Saturday.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Good point...but counterpoint is...now we need to see Nico dice up a legitimate defense that will pressure him sometimes through the air.

I can't wait to see him answer that question...he throws pretty good on the run from the couple of times he had to Saturday.
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Iowa’s defense last year was far better than NC State this year. Our offense now is better than it was against Iowa when we scored 35. I have no worries.
 
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I think we will get 4tds and 4 fgs while they get 2 and 2...

Sooo...
Big Dern Orange...40
Puppy Pack...20


But..if we turn more of those FGs into TDs it could become a absolute freaking massacre. I do however think that Ol Borin Doeren is a competent coach and I think he will figure it out enough to hold us to FGs several times.

With them playing a base 3-3-5...what is going to probably happen is we will have to run and dink-dunk our way down the field, but as the field compacts it will help them to hold us to longer more methodical drives ending in more FGs, so we(Nico and playcallers)will have to prove we can have the patience to take what that defense gives us.

We should have 300+ yards on the ground against a 3-3-5...I hope.
 
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