Recruiting Forum: Official Western Carolina Pre-Game/Game Thread

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It's over.

Now, Western Carolina.

Western Carolina returns 11 starters on offense, and 9 on defense, making them a very experienced squad. However, they don't really play big boy football, so there is a huge talent gap.

Last season, their only decent opponent was Alabama, whom they lost to 48-14. It is interesting to note, that at one point, the game was 17-14, so they tested Bama early, but the inevitable happened.

Keys to Victory:

1. Snap and Clear: I am certain of one thing... Western Carolina is ready to play this game. Lower level teams dream of beating a Power 5 conference team. With Oklahoma having just beaten the Vols in Neyland, Western Carolina is dreaming big. It's not a stretch to imagine many of their players being Tennessee fans growing up as well, given the proximity to Knoxville and their recruiting grounds. If Tennessee is caught looking ahead to Florida, or still has their head in the Oklahoma game, a disaster could certainly happen

2. Earth to Passing game... come in...:
The Tennessee air attack has been somewhat non-existent in the first two games. Dobbs has struggled with accuracy, and whether that is affecting the play calling or not, the plays have not been dialed up to get the ball into the hands of our play makers. WCU has a strong secondary, so now would be a good time to try and work on the passing game before we hit the brutal stretch of the schedule. If you can't pass on WCU, the Florida game is going to be a bad time. I'm not creating a QB controversy, but I'd like to see QD get some playing time with the ones, and see if the passing game opens up. Sure, this creates a QB controversy, but oh well... we need wins, and forward passes are cool.

3. Run and Pull: If the game is in hand (not ala Oklahoma, but REALLY) pull Hurd and Kamara and get some rest before the SEC schedule begins. With no proven passing game, we are going to rely on our two top RB's a lot, so it's better to save them to extra contact and let John Kelly explore the college game a bit more.

4. Take a Jump(er) of faith: I'm sure Colton Jumper is a swell guy, but he is not cutting it at MLB. It's time to try something new. Surely, out of Bryant, Weatherd, Bynum and Kirkland, someone can do better. Find him... do it.... now.

5. Kick the habit: I don't know what has got into Medley. There are many things that cost us the Oklahoma game. Many "one things" that could have one the game. A missed FG attempt is one of them. Be sure of this... if Medley does not straighten his kicks out, it will cost us 1-2 more games. I'd love to see Medley kick 4 in this game. Of course, that means the offense is failing at some point, but 4/4 would be a happy trade-off for me. He needs confidence moving forward.

Prediction:

The team comes out somewhat flat, and WCU sticks around for the first half. The talent gap is apparent though, and the Vols pull away for a comfortable, though not satisfying win.

TN 44
WCU 20
 
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Good Keys,
Result will be different
I expect team to be upset
63-3 Vols whoop Dem cats
 
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How the coaching staff responds during the coming weeks is going to determine whether Tennessee football will take that next step or not. I'm hoping against hope that CBJ and Co. see that some things aren't working and aren't too stubborn to adjust.

We won't learn too awful much from Western Carolina IMO other than how they respond to such an emotionally draining OU loss. I simply don't see any quit in this football team though and I see them taking some frustration out next week.

I hope to see our Vols respond well and jump out on them early. Good game to get a lot of guys some playing time and continue to search for some answers at MLB and in the passing game.

Vols 56-13.
 
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Save Hurd and Kamara's legs for Florida.
Pass the ball to win . 80/20 pass to run ratio this game.
Dormady for at least a quarter with the 1st team. Not in mop up give him a chance to use the whole playbook.

Find a MLB .

Medley. If his misses a fg put in the next guy . If for nothing else to light a fire.
 
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We need to go up by 4 TDs to have a safe coushin then work on this lack luster passing game. We have great talent at WR and don't even try to use it so we need to work on it this week.
 
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We need to go up by 4 TDs to have a safe coushin then work on this lack luster passing game. We have great talent at WR and don't even try to use it so we need to work on it this week.

I actually think we went too conservative after 1st half. The offense moved the ball well then out of no where we can't get a 1st down. That is coaching.
 
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zaqhhh already picked it, but 63-3 was my score too. I think we take out some frustration on a lesser opponent, give the young guys a lot of looks, and get fine-tuned for FL.
 
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We need to go up by 4 TDs to have a safe coushin then work on this lack luster passing game. We have great talent at WR and don't even try to use it so we need to work on it this week.

*cushion

I would love to see us involve the WRs more (as pass catchers, not just blockers).
 
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I almost feel sorry for WCU.....almost. They will feel the brunt of some frustration this weekend.
 
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I almost feel sorry for WCU.....almost. They will feel the brunt of some frustration this weekend.

No, they won't. We will get up 2-3 scores and shut down the offense. We will probably have a very vanilla game plan on both sides of the ball, because we don't want to show off our good stuff...TO ANYONE! We like to keep that stuff in our back pocket, just in case we need it...oh wait...
 
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No, they won't. We will get up 2-3 scores and shut down the offense. We will probably have a very vanilla game plan on both sides of the ball, because we don't want to show off our good stuff...TO ANYONE! We like to keep that stuff in our back pocket, just in case we need it...oh wait...


Babyavi, I get the feeling you are a little upset, sir.

Your posts since the game Saturday have been very bitter. Ha.

I hope for your and my and all of Volnation's sake, that we beat Florida.

I need the old Babyavi back.
 
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No, they won't. We will get up 2-3 scores and shut down the offense. We will probably have a very vanilla game plan on both sides of the ball, because we don't want to show off our good stuff...TO ANYONE! We like to keep that stuff in our back pocket, just in case we need it...oh wait...

Get control sir, it will be ok. :) I expect the offense to be much like the BG game, but our defense will remain stout like the OK game.
 
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Babyavi, I get the feeling you are a little upset, sir.

Your posts since the game Saturday have been very bitter. Ha.

I hope for your and my and all of Volnation's sake, that we beat Florida.

I need the old Babyavi back.

Yes, I am upset! I told my buddy the entire 3rd quarter and 1st half of 4th that we are too conservative on offense, and we can't let them hang around. When you have the opportunity to put away a team, you do it! You can't let any team hang around, but especially a good team. They will eventually figure out something. Butch was so scared to lose momentum, so he leaned, and leaned, and leaned on the defense until he wore them completely out! When Dobbs almost threw the INT to Sanchez (was trying to hit Malone over the middle), he really clammed up! What happened to the
Butch who was chest bumping players 2 years ago against UGA?? He's so tight, that he squeaks when he walks! He HAS TO LOOSEN UP!! The offense played tight because he was tight, and they see he won't open it up...they see it as he doesn't trust them to open it up...what a confidence killer!

I'm not giving up on Butch. I think he's an elite recruiter and great spokesperson for our program. He has an innovative mind...why don't you use it in your offense??? What happened to those great plays we called on 4th down against UGA in 2013?? We were really hurting them on the edges Sat...why did we get away from it?? That's how we scored in OT. I'm really starting to believe more and more that Jake left because he had no freedom calling plays, because we are seeing the same thing this year with a new OC. I'm starting to wonder if Butch is actually calling plays. If he is, he needs to stop.

This is the 2nd game that we dominated for 3+ quarters, led by more than 1 score, and lost. Completely unacceptable, IMO, when both of those games were at home with a live, passionate, electric crowd, and we actually had at least equal talent, and it can be easily argued that were the better team on both games!

It that situation happens again, then the evidence will be overwhelming, IMO, that he is too stubborn to learn from past mistakes, and is not the right HC to lead us back. It really pains me to say that too, because I like Butch and think he's a great ambassador for TN football. I REALLY, REALLY hope he can adapt and correct his mistakes. 48 hours later and I hold firm to what I said late Sat night...he has to prove to me he can win a big game before I will invest in going back to Neyland for another one. As you said Sam, Florida is the next one that he has a chance...IMO, it might be the biggest game of his career. If he can't beat Florida this year, especially after last year's debacle, then fans will start calling for heads.

Very sorry for the long rant, but this one has eaten at me, because he didn't learn one single thing from past mistakes.
 
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Babyavi, I get the feeling you are a little upset, sir.

Your posts since the game Saturday have been very bitter. Ha.

I hope for your and my and all of Volnation's sake, that we beat Florida.

I need the old Babyavi back.

sam - thanks for trying to bring out buddy back from the brink. He's starting to sound too much like me. That being said, I believe the Lord shares with us his wisdom and discernment when he knows our hearts are right. The way I see it baby's exercising what he has been given to cut through the blind loyalty and devotion to the words of man. Call it a "learning experience" for him. lol.
 

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