Recruiting just got harder

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Devo182 said:
You can still return (assuming the school doesn't pull their scholarship...often schools will not want to burn that bridge for zero reason). Even then, their scholarship is good through that semester.
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If a player wants to go elsewhere, that is reason enough for me. That is not burning bridges. That is accomodating the player's request.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
Ummm you do realize players are already transferring multiple times? This is not new!
It’s been actually happening for a long time. AKA Randy Moss and Cam Newton! Each transferred 3 times.
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Umm...that is not the same.
1. Newton went to JUCO after Florida,and then Auburn. He used a year of eligibility.
2. When transferring previously before the past year, it cost a year of sitting out.
3. Even now, a person can only transfer once.

This is not at all the same. This gives the possibility of a person playing for 5 different teams in 5 different years with no penalty.

This effectively means that literally every player on your team is on a one year lease and could leave at any time for any reason, as long as they can work out the financial and academic sides of things.
 
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dduncan4163 said:
I like it. It's going to be close to impossible to horde talent now. Help has been ahead of the curve so far. Thus also means it won't take 4 or 5 years to rebuild a program. That's a great thing. We have the resources to to become elite in this system. This is going to work in our favor. Mark my words
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I think it’s too early to tell. NIL deals are going to be carefully made to ensure the best talent doesn’t bolt after a year wouldn’t they?
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Umm...that is not the same.
1. Newton went to JUCO after Florida,and then Auburn. He used a year of eligibility.
2. When transferring previously before the past year, it cost a year of sitting out.
3. Even now, a person can only transfer once.

This is not at all the same. This gives the possibility of a person playing for 5 different teams in 5 different years with no penalty.

This effectively means that literally every player on your team is on a one year lease and could leave at any time for any reason, as long as they can work out the financial and academic sides of things.
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While generally renewed annually, athletic scholarships are given on a yearly basis. This rule would give players the same flexibility.

Also just some random info - in a sport like baseball, programs have only 11.7 full scholarships to divvy up amongst 27 players. Let’s say you accept a 60% athletic scholly. The next season they could offer you a reduced 40% scholly if they see fit for roster management. Obviously doesn’t come into play in football with the 85 full scholarships.
 
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tennesseeduke said:
Ummm you do realize players are already transferring multiple times? This is not new!
It’s been actually happening for a long time. AKA Randy Moss and Cam Newton! Each transferred 3 times.
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Randy moss never played for Notre dame. He essentially got kicked off, but because he signed an NIL he had to "transfer" to FSU. To say he transferred 3 times is to reach a bit to make your point.
 
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I think this new transfer rule may give players a thought of moving on until it becomes too much of a distraction for them. It takes, so I keep reading, a couple of years to get acclimated to a new system, so the best players possibly will not be as willing to transfer. Having to learn a new playbook every year will be a deterrent to transferring, as players may not be able to show how good they are if they transfer every year, rather than being in the same system multiple years. But I may be proven wrong. Time will tell.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
I think this new transfer rule may give players a thought of moving on until it becomes too much of a distraction for them. It takes, so I keep reading, a couple of years to get acclimated to a new system, so the best players possibly will not be as willing to transfer. Having to learn a new playbook every year will be a deterrent to transferring, as players may not be able to show how good they are if they transfer every year, rather than being in the same system multiple years. But I may be proven wrong. Time will tell.
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Also, just like people on their 4th or 5th marriage, coaches will be able to see who "really" was the problem after the first or second transfer.
 
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If I'm a NIL sponsor then wouldn't it make sense for me to put in a clause that says it's only valid if you stay at school X? Problem solved. If you don't want to agree to that then go find another sponsor.
 
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Extremely dumb, but I am not surprised. I’m fine with the one-time blanket transfer and in fact think that is a good thing, but even professional players have to abide by contracts and stay with a franchise for at least a few years unless they demand a trade and their organization obliges.

We’re just creating further accountability issues in these students as well as harming their ability to push through even the slightest bit of adversity.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Extremely dumb, but I am not surprised. I’m fine with the one-time blanket transfer and in fact think that is a good thing, but even professional players have to abide by contracts and stay with a franchise for at least a few years unless they demand a trade and their organization obliges.

We’re just creating further accountability issues in these students as well as harming their ability to push through even the slightest bit of adversity.
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Scholarships are one year contracts, not multi-year. So if a player transfers after a year, even after every single year, they’re fulfilled their “contractual duties”.

Also coaches leave all the time before their contracts are up. Schools also fire coaches before their contracts are up, sometimes even the following year after agreeing to a contract.

Where’s the fuss about their accountability and indifference to adversity?
 
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This is the literal picture of what opening Pandora's box looks like. 5 years ago, it was pulling teeth, sometimes, to get the NCAA to grant a waiver for immediate eligibility for a transfer. Soon it will be "no questions asked". This could effectively ruin college sports unless you're a fan of cheering on teams of paid mercenaries that turnover from year to year. If you're a Kentucky fan, particularly basketball, then you've been indoctrinated into this experience over the last 13 years, so the blow won't seem so severe.
 
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The NCAA will also institute a new frequent transfer reward card. You get it punched with each transfer. Once you reach your fourth school you get a choice between a new big screen tv or a weekend in a timeshare in Destin
 
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MarcoVol said:
Scholarships are one year contracts, not multi-year. So if a player transfers after a year, even after every single year, they’re fulfilled their “contractual duties”.

Also coaches leave all the time before their contracts are up. Schools also fire coaches before their contracts are up, sometimes even the following year after agreeing to a contract.

Where’s the fuss about their accountability and indifference to adversity?
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The argument of coaches leaving for news jobs is a fair one if you are lobbying for a one-time transfer rule, which I very much support. It’s a fair argument for that but I don’t think it’s fair to use that for this argument that we just allow students to leave every single year.

How often, if ever, is a coach leaving their job for a new one every single year? And I’m talking about leaving their job. Being fired isn’t the same thing. If a student athlete is cut from a team, I have absolutely no problem with them jumping around till they find a place they can stick. But, that’s not what this unlimited transfers is going to solve. Unlimited transfers just allows your entire team to essentially “test free agency” every single year and put themselves on the market. I don’t like this idea of players holding coaches hostage if they feel like they aren’t making enough money. It’s just an absolute mess that is going to cause even more chaos in college sports.

It’s fine if that is what you want college athletics to become, but I really have no interest in it. Turnover is already high enough. We don’t need more of it.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
The argument of coaches leaving for news jobs is a fair one if you are lobbying for a one-time transfer rule, which I very much support. It’s a fair argument for that but I don’t think it’s fair to use that for this argument that we just allow students to leave every single year.

How often, if ever, is a coach leaving their job for a new one every single year? And I’m talking about leaving their job. Being fired isn’t the same thing. If a student athlete is cut from a team, I have absolutely no problem with them jumping around till they find a place they can stick. But, that’s not what this unlimited transfers is going to solve. Unlimited transfers just allows your entire team to essentially “test free agency” every single year and put themselves on the market. I don’t like this idea of players holding coaches hostage if they feel like they aren’t making enough money. It’s just an absolute mess that is going to cause even more chaos in college sports.

It’s fine if that is what you want college athletics to become, but I really have no interest in it. Turnover is already high enough. We don’t need more of it.
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I get that. But how often, if ever, will we be talking about a kid leaving a school every year? No one knows but I’m gonna wager a guess that it won’t be enough to warrant the demise of college football. But that’s just a guess.

Kids can transfer now unlimited times. They just have to sit a year after the first one.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
I think this new transfer rule may give players a thought of moving on until it becomes too much of a distraction for them. It takes, so I keep reading, a couple of years to get acclimated to a new system, so the best players possibly will not be as willing to transfer. Having to learn a new playbook every year will be a deterrent to transferring, as players may not be able to show how good they are if they transfer every year, rather than being in the same system multiple years. But I may be proven wrong. Time will tell.
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Your right, the great majority that transfer 3 times will be struggling or are too impatient. Of course there will be a few that have unique circumstances. But for the most a one time transfer is sufficient, when it happens more than that many times it’s the player that just isn’t getting it done or has issues. Again not all situations are the same but for many that transfer more than 2 times there probably isn’t going to be a great demand at power 5 schools. I think in time transfers will drop, don’t think the NFL won’t be looking at the guy that can’t seem to be happy anywhere. This will serve up as a flag warning for NFL scouts. 1 time no problem, but doing it twice or more without much of a reason will get noticed. GBO!
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Uh...I'm sorry, what? This is absolutely huge news. Far from a "nothing burger"
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As a graduate, they could already transfer. Many graduate in three years. Transferring more than the currently approved one time before graduation suggest you have some kind of issue...commitment, getting along, problem with the staff, not good enough to start, etc.

I'm sure it will have some impact, but not nearly as much as you suggest.
 
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Regular students can transfer as many times as they want without consequence. I don’t see any issues with it as long as there are designated windows for entering/transferring and they don’t allow transfers during the season. There have to be some rules in place or it really would be the Wild West.
 
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The NCAA will also institute a new frequent transfer reward card. You get it punched with each transfer. Once you reach your fourth school you get a choice between a new big screen tv or a weekend in a timeshare in Destin
 
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